Questions about Controls, Third Party Planes and Hard Drive Capacity

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Loving the game so far owned it for like 3 months, and finally got around to playing it (work/flight school takes up my life).

  1. I’ve read through the topics about controls, I have a tflight hotas. When I use the twist of the stick for rudder my rudder tends to randomly turn right, when I switched to using the slider thingy on the throttle i get the opposite it wants to turn left. Is this is issue I tried the deadzone stuff for the stick, helps a bit. Does this sim implement strong wind forces on the rudder?

  2. Coming from years of playing FSX getting decent free planes from flyawaysimulations, and finally spending the money on Carenado ones. Why do the Carenado ones for FSX and Xplane cost 24-60 bucks, but the ones on the storefront (I used PC) go for so cheap? I’ve read the quality isn’t the best with the MSFS 2020 ones. I felt like the ones I had on FSX looked way better then typical FSX stuff.

  3. Lastly installish issues. My C Drive was full. I believe I installed the game through steam so I went to uninstall to move to my F drive. It uninstalled then when I clicked reinstall to the F drive it only installed 20 gb and then worked, absolutely no space on my C drive was freed up as if it reinstalled back to my C drive. I tried the app thing some people can say to click modify or move but I don’t get that option at all. I ended up just deleting all my fsx stuff and downloads to make enough room on my C drive and saying F it.

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Moved to Community Support-Tech Support for community assistance.

Click the “reverse” check box, that will make rudder be correct when setting it up.

Never buy planes in the Market place, may folks have problems with them, quality and getting any kind of refund, or even sometimes getting them to install and download properly. Just go to vendors website and purchase from there. One example, DC Designs F-14, no weapons in marketplace but if buy from them, you can populate plane with them.

MSFS install issues have gotten us all. The best thing is to just get bigger drive and put on C. There are ways around this, I now see on Xbox site, an option to move game to a different drive, but my C is big enough, I just leave it there.

Some other notes. If you need to reinstall it, copy the whole game to a separate drive, and then you can just overwrite the 1-3% of the downloaded part with the copy you have as backup. The instructions are in various places on the procedures to follow.

Some antivirus packages prevent the game from even downloading, so if using aftermarket make sure that is not preventing the downloading part.

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Thanks for moving it for some reason I’m running into an issue where under some of the categories of threads I’m not getting the + create topic thing popping up.

Thank you so much for taking the time to educate me on this subject. I didn’t know I could purchase from the direct website lol (newb). When you do it is it a simple plug and play or like some of the old FSX style stuff (download winzip, extract, move files and so forth).

I saw that one the thing I had no idea what that was for. The reverse check box things. I’ve read about someone people saying put it on easy mode or something and it fixes everything lol. Being a student pilot I want things as close to actual flying. I will totally try that as soon as I get home.

Ya it’s weird the initial install worked super fast. Then I noticed it all went to my C drive. Which with all the old FSX planes I binged on did not have much space I deleted most all of my FSX stuff now I’m at like 200 gigs.

I can’t wait to further delve into the sim experience.

The textures and 3D modelling is excellent.

Where Carenado are criticised is flight models (some of their products are OK, other products not so much) and a lack of what is loosely termed “depth”, basically depth involves more switches and systems enabled, things like luggage doors animated, persistence of fuel between flights, controls and switch settings preserved between flights, accumulated wear and tear, more failure if mistreated etc.

SO basically good price, look lovely, FM can be OK depending on the model. but basically no frills in terms of extra features.

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It will generally install to your ‘AppData’ directory for your ‘User’ account. That usually resides on drive C. You can probably get it to install elsewhere but like others, my ‘C’ drive is big enough so it is on there. For example, my installation is here: -

C:\Users\ms\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache\Packages

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What I did was move the FSX files (not game-but extras) to another drive so I would have backup and not lose them. Then only install what I want when using FSX and leave the rest off it, so it does not get too big.

MSFS is a whole nother matter, but again, I keep my community folder mostly empty except for the planes I have purchased and one piece of scenery which I keep for the realism of it. I also do not purchase any or most any aftermarket stuff, as I only like 3-5 planes; C-17 GM III, PMDG-737; DC Designs F-14, the C-17 is a freeware and it’s marginal, in Q3 of 2023, DC Designs has said they are going to release a C-17, I will purchase that. PMDG has said they are developing the 747 for MSFS and I will purchase that, and that mostly fills up my hanger with the planes I want to fly. I do not care for GA or small business planes, but the Icon A5 is a kick in the pants, and the TBM-930 is also a good plane to fly around and learn the G3000 System.

Search for how to make a shortcut to the Community Folder, then create a BACKUP Community Folder someplace other than C and put all that stuff in there for backup. I keep separate folders on D for any planes I fly, and backup that about once week. I have at least 3 backups of all my stuff so in case of bad things, won’t lose it. But I started that when building PC’s and working in IT in the 80’s+ and on, and storage is much more reliable, regardless of if it’s not saved bad things will happen.

Lots of good channels on YouTube for information and knowledge, Sim Hanger and several others, you can watch their stuff and see which ones you like.

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I do armed security and everyone leaves at 1700/5pm So I spent most of yesterday watching reviews and instructional stuff from some AVangel, and I believe Sim hanger. That makes a lot of sense I will definitely be moving some stuff around to make space.

See I kinda like flying a plethora of airplanes. I had DCS downloaded (never got to try it) due to what I hear has the most realistic physics for fighters, but boy after looking at the prices 60-80 on some of the planes I never really messed with it too much.

When I got bored once during ground school (real life) you have to do a lot of modules through jeppeson. So I found a website called earth rounders (people that have flown around the world) I ended up trying to replicate those flights with the planes on the list. Needless to say I had so much to choose from on FSX. I retrofitted the ones that I know used autopilot, mapped it out, split the screen worked on my actual flight school stuff while letting autopilot do it’s thing until landing. To make it worse I built a spread sheet based on airframe average cruise speed and did it from slowest to fastest (granted at times with speeding the sim up). Lets just say it took forever to fly atw in a cessna lol.

I tried the reverse thing on the check box. No luck. For some reason I don’t know it could be my tflight hotas it’s rather old. When I go to sensitivity the rotational thing is always pulling right I had to deadzone to 80% for it not to pick it up. With the sliders on the throttle for rudder, it still tends to want to randomly pull right like a ghost depressing the left slider. I counter it and nothing happens. Then when I get ■■■■■■ and squeeze the heck out of it to the left the way it’s pulling it will stop it for a while. I’ve owned this thing for over 5 years maybe it’s just kaput, what are you running? I’ve been looking into the honeycomb stuff, or better joystick throttle combos.

CatsmAsher11B - It will pay you in realism to purchase flight controls which are well made and mimic real-life controls. I had Honeycomb, made out of plastic, worked ok, but needs lots of desk space. I did/do not have the kind of room to have a complete cockpit setup full time. I researched and purchased Virpil VFX stick (mimics real F-14A-B plane controls, close to D model as well), and their CM-3 Throttle unit, now they have excellent pedals and another couple of boxes which have landing gear levers, but again, too many boxes. The benefit of Virpil is all the buttons are customizable by you the end user. You can get the VFX grip in either twist for rudder or without (which can be locked out by turning a set screw) and I think it comes in left/right configs, but not sure. I have had them for over two years, and they are as good now as when out of the box. Excellent quality, 95% metal construction. It made me better pilot to have controls which are precise. There are some “gotchas” for them, first only setup (plug in) one control at a time in configuration mode, do that one, unplug, and then do the second one, restart system then both can be plugged in at same time. Havoc Company Clan and Johns Gaming on YouTube has excellent videos on how to configure and setup. Excellent support comes out of Eastern Europe and may have waiting time. Rudder pedals are next for me, TOL model, as those then can be configured for CA and GA and Fighter type pedals. I think those give me more exacting control on my rudder, as the twist is a little different.
I sold the HC throttle unit, because of size, made in china, which I don’t like and getting support for some has been issue. It also takes over some switches/buttons by default, which again I did not like. The Boeing throttle/flight stick thing has some people scratching their heads as well. Read reviews on here to see how those work. Nice idea in principle, but that is dedicated to Boeing planes and making it work for others might be issue. Part of problem is the MSFS internal control settings. choices and figuring out what is being controlled. It changes ever SU and sometimes on WU’s as well.

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