Re-assign Logi Throttle Quadrant Axis/Sliders : Prop to Throttle

I added 2nd Throttle Quadrant but cannot re-assign the axis/sliders i.e. Prop to Throttle etc. so that I can use them with 2 engine planes. I believe X-Plane allows that.

Is there any similar option with MSFS 2020 that I may be missing?

MSFS 2020

X-Plane 11
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First of all, in Controls Options you should have two devices “SAITEK PRO FLIGHT QUADRANT”.
You need to create two profiles, one for each device (if only one profile, the two devices will share it).
Let’s say the first profile is named “QUADRANT TWIN_PROP A” and the second “QUADRANT TWIN_PROP B”.
If you bind levers as on pics, on Quadrant1 you’ll have the two left levers for Engine1 and Engine2 Throttle, the one at right for Propeller1.
On Quadrant2 lever at left for Propeller2, and the two others for Mixture1 and Mixture2.
You’ll have to check if you need to reverse axis or not for each couple of levers (my settings should not be the same than yours).

And you’ll be the proud owner of this:

QUADRANT TWIN_PROP C

Voilà, voilà…

I am guessing both of your Throttle Quadrants are USB. I have one that came with Yoke (w/PS2 like connector) and other is USB.

I created new profiles for each with different names but I still don’t see the settings as per your screenshots. How do I bind levers? Is there any additional settings that I have to do?
Thoughts?

Throttle Quadrant 1 that came with Yoke:


Standalone Throttle Quadrant 2 with USB connector:

Yes, I have two USB Quads, but I had one before with the yoke and it doesnt change anything.
The yoke have an USB hub inside, you can see three USB connectors and another DIN connector for the Quad, but this one is also connected to the hub. So in fact the yoke Quad is connected in USB.

Please note since SU5, creating profiles and bindings became pricky and unstable, so if I insist on some points or way to do it’s not because I think you’re stupid, but only because I know it works like so. And often it’s better to have a little loss of time immediately rather than a big one after with no success in addition.
So please,follow each step even if you think it’s unnecessary, already made or a loss of time.
After each change, click on “Apply And Save”.
Dont click and validate too fast, it sometime needs a few seconds to update.
If something seems to be “strange” or not OK, dont hesitate to save, go back to the menu and re-enter in Controls options. After that dont forget to reselect the proper device and profile.

OK, let’s do it step by step.

  • delete the two profiles you’ve created.

  • close MSFS

  • unplug the USB Quad, we’ll begin with only the yoke one.

  • launch MSFS

  • go in Controls Options

  • in FILTER box choose ALL (pic 01) From now, always keep ALL in this box except to take screen shots !

  • for each couple of Device/Profile, check you dont have an axis (axis, not button) already binded for throttle, propeller or mixture by typing the word in the SEARCH BY NAME box. (pic 02)

  • if you find one except in a DEFAULT profile, delete it.

  • Once you’re sure no axis in any profile for any device is binded for throttle, propeller or mixture, you’ll begin the bindings you want.

  • Select the SAITEK Quad with the DEFAULT profile

  • with the PRESET MANAGER (bottom of screen) create you new profile for this Quad (the one with 2xthrottle and 1x prop)

  • be sure the new profile is selected

  • with ALL in the FILTER box, develop POWER MANAGEMENT/THROTTLE (pic 03 and pic 04)

  • now you should have all of the possible bindings displayed (pic 05), including Engines 4 to 1 with the differents options.

  • apply the bindings for your levers as on yesterday description for this Quad.

  • do the same in POWER MANAGEMENT/PROPELLER for the third lever

  • dont forget “Apply and Save” at each step!

  • quit MSFS

  • plug the USB Quad.

  • launch MSFS

  • this time it’s not necessary to recheck all.

  • create a second profile with it’s own name for the USB Quad.

  • follow same procedure for the Engine2 propeller

  • in POWER MANAGEMENT/MIXTURE bind the last two levers as described yesterday

  • dont forget: to see all possibilities you need to have ALL in the FILTER box.

Hope it will work.

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I noticed I forgot to mention the use of “EXPAND/COLLAPSE ALL” button under the FILTER box.
It’s use is evident, no need to explain.

Waitnig for news.

@PlumbGlue67 Thanks for the detailed information. I will try it in next couple of days.

@PlumbGlue67 Got it configured as mentioned. Haven’t tested it yet in game with actual flight, but during configuration, I see all lever/axis responding as expected. Thanks.

Throttle Profile Names:

Used this as starting point for assignment:

Throttle 1

Throttle 2

Hi

I have a Saitek Yoke kit with quadrant pinned with some strange connector like hsbawa and I bought second one quadrannt with normal usb connector. My problem is mapping buttons. When I mark yoke on control panel msfs2020 all axis and buttons from the new one quadrant are available BUT button on yoke B1 is also mapped to the new one quadrant button T6. When I try search by inputs button T6 is B2. If I mark new quadrant button T6 is T6. I can’t use new quadrant because every button is doubled with yoke.
Any ideas?

It’s not a “strange” connector, it’s called a DIN connector :slightly_smiling_face:
Are you using Logitech drivers and/ or profile app ?
If yes delete them. (Logitech drivers are only needed for panels, not yoke, rudder pedals and quadrants, and profiles app is not made for MSFS).
Calibrate your yoke and levers under Windows, and verfiy all buttons have a different number, with yoke and both quadrants plugged.
In MSFS, if you have already created profiles, delete them, only keep the default ones (hoping you didn’t modified them).
From now, you’ll proceed one device by one device independantly.
Quit MSFS, reboot the PC, and only keep the yoke plugged without it’s quadrant, and no other USB device you’ll use later in MSFS (Keep your keyboard and mouse plugged :wink:).
Launch MSFS, select the yoke in controls panel, duplicate default profile to a new one named 'Yoke_01" for example.
IMPORTANT: Each device must have it’s own profile with differents names.
i.e. If you have only one profile name for quads, the two ones will share it.
Bind levers and buttons and don’t forget to save .
Quit MSFS, and do the same (profile, bindings) with the USB quadrant alone.
Quit again, unplug USB quad, and do the same with Yoke+it’s quadrant, but bind levers and buttons of the DIN quadrant only, without changing yoke ones.
Now, quit, reboot, plug yoke+DIN quadrant and USB quad, verify again under Windows they are not interfering between them and you have all your axes and buttons working.
Launch MSFS, verify each device use it’s unique named profile, and it should work.
Also, carefully re-read above procedures, as there are some explanations and tips I didn’t duplicate here.
Hope it will help.

Voilà, voilà…

Thank you for your quick answer
The first problem is that “old” one quadrant is integrated with the yoke, and it is on the same profile, for example, YOKE 1. After plugging in 2nd quad, it has its own panel (Saitek pro quadrant) and profile name “Quadrant 2”, but every button is available over the Yoke control panel with doubled axes and buttons from yoke and old quad :frowning: I did your procedure, but the problem didn’t change. In my opinion, the problem is that the new quad is available on the yoke panel and on its own profile simultaneously. At the Windows device profile I have yoke, rudder and “new” quad. I use it all the time on x-plane without any problem. Also have multipanel, radio panel and switch panel from saitek. Maybe I did some installation few years ago, but I don’t remember and for now I don’t know how to find it. I can’t understand how the new quad is available from yoke panel on msfs2020???

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Hello.
I have two USB connected Saitek Throttle Quadrants and a DIN Throttle Quadrant attached to the yoke port. The last one is not a problem since the bindings are done for the Yoke profile. However the two USB seem to be recognized by MSFS2020 as one. I followed your instructions step by step. Two Saitek Throttle Quadrants are shown in the controls menu. I cleared the previous profiles for both of them, shut the sim off, unplug one o them, create a profile for the left one, save and apply, shut the sim again, plug the right one, create a new profile, but when I tried to bind any controls to it, a message will appear advising that I was trying to bind a controler from a not selected controller. No problem. So I shut down the sim again, unplug the first quadrant, create a new profile for the right quadrant, aply and save, shut the sim again. Then I plug the first quadrant, and both of them are shown in the controls menu, but only one of them works, in dispite of having different profiles names. It seems like if the sim is experiencing some issues about having two exact devices with the same name. I can check them both in windows and both work correctly, but are shown with the exact same name. Any ideas about how to change the names of the devices or any other solution to this? Thank you so much in advance.

You can only have 2 quadrants, one din connector and one usb. There’s no usb chip inside the quadrant with the din connector - it depends on the yoke. As an aside, if your yoke suffers from disconnecting after being plugged in for a while, you can use a quarter and some arctic silver thermal paste on it - it’s the smaller of the two chips).

Thank you for your quick response, but it is not the case.
Lets disregard the din connector throttle quadrant, since it is not causing any issues.
I have two USB quadrants connected to the computer (not to the yoke) by a powered multihub. Windows recognizes both, albeit with the same exact name. I can test them in windows with no issue. But when I create two different profiles in msfs2020, and in spite of being both of them found in the options menu (once again, with different profiles names) only the left one will provide inputs for both profiles. Right one does not show any moment in neither profile.

Any ideas on how to connect two USB Saitek throttle quadrants to msfs2020 and make them work?

A quick search of the forum is generally the best first step. Solution explained here.

You have 3 throttle quads, 2 are usb. They both have the same id - the only workarounx iz to use A&O, which doesn’t use the same way to identify devices. You can download a demo version to see if it works for you.

Ok, it seems that I made everything work all right, and this time, for a change, I know how and why!!

The first thing one needs to know about connecting two USB Saitek Throttle Quadrants to the computer is that the one you connect first will be the left one, and the second will be considered the right one. Also, they will appear in game devices with the exact same name, but the one on top will be the left one, the one on the bottom will be the right one. If you try to bind controls in msfs 2020 in the quadrant that you put in the left in your cockpit set up, but windows identifies it like the right one, you will have a conflict and will not be able to configure the controls correctly.

So my advice is to go to “Devices and Printers”, delete both USB Saitek Quadrants, unplug both quadrants USB’s and then reboot the computer. Once the computer is on again go back to “Devices and Printers” and plug the quadrant that is going to be located on the left side in your cockpit. Once the drivers are installed, you can connect the second quadrant, that will show up also in Devices and Printers.

If you go now to “game devices” you will find two Saitek Throttle Quadrants. If you select the one on top of both, go to “properties”, and then to “configure device”, you will find that when you move the axis on your left quadrant the controls will move in the graphic. Now do the same with the right quadrant and make sure that both work and are recognized by windows and are placed in your cockpit in the correct order.

Now it is time to go and open MSFS. Go to options, controls, delete the profiles you could have build up before for both quadrants, aply and save, reboot the sim to be sure, and start to bind a new profile for each of them again, always keeping in mind that the names of the profiles MUST be different (for example Quadrant Left and Quadrant Right). Now you will see both quadrants in the controls menu and the sim will allow you to bind the controls of your choice correctly.

Hope all this will be of help.

Happy flights!!

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