I hope she will be available on Orbx store.
Their website says marketplace only unfortunately.
https://redwing-copter.com/project-lfpb-1935/
I had a look through the manual and it’s making me want this more, some nice details in there and the upcoming career mode stuff at the end looks quite promising too.
Manual link manual-F60 V1.0.0_F.pdf - Google Drive
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Not the biggest fan of the marketplace myself and I would have preferred if other options are available. Especially since there’s no option to “rent” a module for a few days to try it out. (Seriously, that would be a game-changer for the marketplace!)
I think this plane is certainly worth considering even if one doesn’t like the marketplace. It really has a lot to offer, and the issues that it still has are comparatively minor. But most of all, it’s so unique, which to me is almost enough already to justify getting it.
Spent a good few hours flying this plane yesterday and am enjoying it greatly.
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Tempted !
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Thanks for posting that video! So nice to see her flying in all her glory.
Now obviously I prefer the safety of modern airliners, but flying in the front cabin, seated on a wicker chair on a soft carpet, and having a view out right in the front, that sounds like quite the experience!
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Looks like a real gentle giant in the air! What is the cruise speed?
The manual says cruise speed is 65 knots but also says 150 km/h which isn’t an accurate conversion, 150 kmh is actually 80 knots 
Earlier today I had her at an IAS of 110 kph, give or take. My Sky4Sim tablet said the ground speed was about 65 knots. That’s with the engines running at 1700 rpm. No idea if that’s a proper engine setting, I’m guessing it’s a tad high.
But to be honest it’s hard to hold a specific speed, at least if you’re trying to also maintain a certain altitude. Those engines aren’t very powerful so I’d regularly have to trade speed for altitude in a downdraft, or vice versa in an updraft.
@Megadyptes7635 @Hayray79 Okay, thanks guys! Not exactly a lot of power to spare.
Exactly. Although that is one of the things that makes the Goliath different from other planes. With full load and warm temperatures I’m struggling to get her airborne. With reduced weight she will get into the air willingly, but she’ll not skyrocket but instead sort of slowly drift upwards in no particular hurry.
I’d imagine in a time where good quality roads were few and far between, and where fast cars weren’t yet a thing, going at over 100 kph in a beeline towards your destination would have been considered break-neck speed.
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Absolutely! No such thing as first class either 
At least those wicker chairs helped to kept the MTOW low!
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It was the heyday of the passenger train, let’s not forget - London to Paris by air would definitely beat two trains and a ferry, but I bet Paris to Berlin was a bit more competitive - albeit that Weimar Germany was a bit broke, so perhaps Paris to somewhere else… There were airships too, but those were definitely for the very well heeled.
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Trains were getting faster and faster in these days, it wasn’t anymore so much the question of a horse cart or not getting anywhere, it was more of a question of cheap mass transport getting faster and faster compared to the early days or competition. And flying was probably not affordable for most people so it wasn’t really a competition. I guess in average the steam trains were still a lot slower, sure they could reach a high speed but it will be a lot slower on other times. So theres no way a train back then would’ve reached 150 or 160kph on average but 100 no problem probably. 1920s they were probably not quiet there what was possible but really close with steam at least.
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Yes you’re right. I wasn’t thinking of trains when I wrote that, but as you and VanDisaster wrote, this was the time when trains pretty much made the world tick.
I know way too little about that period, but I suppose trains were the actual workhorses and planes started as a stunning novelty for the select few, and flying was probably as much an experience as it was a mode of travel, if not more so. I mean, think of how awesome flying still is today, but then imagine yourself in a world where steam engines were the height of human ingenuity and nobody had been flying at all much farther back than a decade.
Still wouldn’t like to have lived in that period, but imagining these early beginnings of flight still gives me the shivers sometimes 
Flying was a novelty for the rich right into the 1960s - it was only the advent of large aircraft then that finally killed off the ocean liners. Trains are now killing off a lot of European domestic flights, it’s an interesting circle. I think ( not something I’m really knowledgeable on ) some fast trains in the 1920s would be averaging 70mph or so which is a bit over110kmh, but I bet they were probably almost as expensive as flight. People also just didn’t travel as much.
( Quick use of a search engine shows a proposed direct Paris-Berlin line that’ll take an hour. Imagine being dragged out of the 20s-30s & seeing that! ).
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There’s definitely a level-of-detail thing going on with the human models (both the pilot, and the passengers standing about when parked); you have to be quite close or they just disappear, and it’s hard to get a screenshot that includes the entire plane but also has all the people visible.
When zipping the camera around in drone mode I also hear some weird audio warbles, presumably from interactions with the engine sounds. Harmless, but kinda funky.
Having a grand time flying it around though; did another jaunt yesterday from John Wayne (KSNA) to Fullerton (KFUL), on “normal” mode instead of “easy” this time. 
While climbing too aggressively I stalled and went overspeed during recovery, which damaged the wing! Cute visual effect with tattered fabric, and the mechanic yelled out a warning.
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Yes, I like that, that’s another one for my olde world hanger.
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Does anyone know how to get in touch with Red Wing? I tried their Discord links but they don’t seem to work.
In my Goliath the compass is still stuck showing I’m heading due North regardless of where I’m headed. I tried with an otherwise empty community folder but the problem remained.
Outside of this problem I thoroughly love the Goliath still. I’d fly her more often if I had my yoke installed more often. Whenever I’m taking her up into virtual skies I love it every bit as much as I did initially.
Try this link:
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It didn’t work directly either, but starting Discord manually and entering the invite did the trick. Thanks!
Will send them a quick message now and then get back in the Goliath for a little mail run.
Edit: Ah, turns out the problem is known and Red Wing are working on a fix. That’s great news and I’m looking forward to this!
To anyone happening across this post, you should give the Goliath a go if you’re at all interested in early aviation! It has tons of character and is totally unique. What I find particularly enjoyable is that I get an airliner feel without having to study modern procedures etc. Current bug notwithstanding I can give it very high praise indeed!
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