thanks, see attached – this works !
Splitting my flight time with the 737 but I have to say I’m loving flying the 146. Even doing cold and dark startups now.
Isn’t the 737 a tad boring compared to the 146? Curious to your views
Oh most definitely. The 737 is like a kind and gentle nanny, who goes out of her way to make your life as easy and happy as it possibly can be.
The 146 is like your buddy who calls at 11:30pm on a Monday night and says “I have three six-packs and a Corvette. Wanna hang out?”
Good analogy haha. It’s part of the 146’ charm, definitely.
I’d say the 737 is however much more hands on, and rewarding to fly, than the A320. But you’re certainly right, it’s much more user friendly than the 146.
And the 146 has this fun IRL skin.
Have to say, just sometimes i do wish it had an auto throttle. But on the other hand this is exactly why she is quick to get up (no weights to put in the FMS etc) and is quite involved.
The TMS is (sort of) an autothrottle, no?
Not really. It modulates the throttles a little but during cruise and if the TGT is too low to use the TMS in that way you need to really be precise and adjust a fair bit.
If you can use TGT then it’s a lot less hassle in cruise.
Ah I see, thanks for clarifying.
Of course. Two different experiences on two completely different aircraft really. The A320NX is the closest experience to the 737, all quite automated though. There are enough differences beetween the two to warrant flying them both and unlike the A320, I havent got bored with the 737 yet. Seems like much of the complexity to be seen is with setting up the FMS correctly as once off the ground then you could just be in the A320 or any other automated airliner.
I use it for longer flights. Like this afternoon I flew it from EGPH to LIML. All other flights around an hour I’m using 146 to hop around in. You are involved with both aircraft but in different ways. The 146 is like an older & nicer to fly version of the CRJ. It still puts a smile on my face. The 737 has largely just replaced the A320 for me. I won’t be getting the Fenix & I dont care how well the cabin is modelled. There’s only so much A320 you can handle in your simming life, and I’m quite bored with it now.
Yes it is more hands on, but after take-off not so much really. Complexity is in the pre takeoff setup. It also has some depth and failures if you seek out those. It’s as complex as you want it to be tbh.
I mean at a rudimentary level, start up ready for takeoff load a flightplan and apart from editing sid and star / approach it can be quite straight forward and boring. I’m not bored yet though and still have a lot to learn.
Ha ha yes, 146 is not quite a sports car, but it is fun to fly for sure. Always puts a smile on you face. Not sure I could land it after 3 six packs though
You still need to do manual throttle adjustments. I look on it more as an engine performance tweak tool for different flight phases. It won’t keep you holding an approach speed on final. In the end of the day you are the autothrottle and this aircraft’s airspeed needs to be watched like a hawk especially on final. It shares that trait with the CRJ. At least it has a decent speedbrake for when you need it.
Unfortunately TGT mode on the TMS only goes down to 600, and while I sometimes am able to sit at 600-610 in cruise and fly entirely hands-off, I often need to go a bit lower to avoid overspeed and end up having to manually adjust throttle in Sync mode, with TGT down in the 550-570 range.
And even if I’m able to fly within the TMS envelopes throughout the flight, it still requires a decent amount of fiddling with, managing the different modes, TGT, and keeping the throttles within the ballpark for TMS to kick in.
It’s a cool snapshot of the early days of automation, and as finicky as it can be, it’s one of my favorite aspects of the 146. It’s why I choose to fly it over something more modern.
I posted a pic of KLM livery above on 146 flying over EHAM. It comes with it I think.
Thanks for the information. I’m still learning about the 146 really. But the more involved nature of it is one of the reasons why I like it so much, definitely.
I looked at all the other airliners the BAe is the only one which has the possibility to use both the ingame flightplanner and the SImbrief thingy.
This is a great desgn choice. (even if I don’t use GPS much or at all with this after my first few flights).
So glad I bought this one (and none of the others).
Currently flying this in one of my favourite regions, Northern Andes (Venezuela/ Columbia/Ecuador). Awesome for the kind of approaches you have there.
I don’t use the FMC at all and I still just VOR and HDG and ILS. I love how hands-on this thing is and how active you have to manage it.
Haha lol… it just didn’t occur to me that that might be the case. I only checked the -200 liveries
https://flightsim.to/c/liveries/bae-146-professional/
Heh there’s actually 146 liveries in this section at the time of me posting this
Is there a Direct to option on the FMS? I keep getting Discontinuities in my MSFS download flight plan
Has anyone found out how to map the likes of Engine Anti-Ice, Pitot Heat, Cont Ignition, Starter, Engine Selector, Ground power, Yaw Damper etc in AAO? Is there a list of vars to script somewhere? The default sim command dont seem to work although I managed to get Battery, Avionics, Fuel cutoff, lights and most AP functions to work
Just copy whatever waypoint that’s right under the discontinuity line and put it on the discontinuity line. This should get rid of it