Remember: No more than 250kts below 10000 ft guys!

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#1

As a casual simmer and coming from fsx where i flew in online community like vatsim on some occasions. I use a simple joystick where twisting the rod act as rudder.

In msfs i mostly (only) fly GA and VFR while i wait for the fixes that makes IFR flying a thing without frustration.

I have not yet joined vatsim but will do. Flying with real ATC is so fabulous.

I have some random stuff/tips to share:

  • All over the world max speed below 10000 ft is 250kts. So check your flying with them fast planes.
  • As an old gamer i have a very small dot from a marker in the absolute center of my screen (Ye hack i know) but it helps me a lot in the descent, aiming at the landing threshold.
  • I use windy.com (free, browser, no login) to check weather AND plan my flights. It has some nifty tools for planning.
  • Free VFRmap plugin to show my plane on a (OpenStreet) map, see where airports are AND to use the teleport functionality so i do not have to use DEVMODE.
  • OCD like habit to always click one time on the mainscreen after touching any stuff on my secondary screens. This so i do not lose functionality because another window has focus.

My favorite trip and i almost do it daily is: Flying the Cessna 208 B Grand Caravan: VNKT --> VNLK (~1h) always different and mostly pretty cloudy so it is challenging. (just arrive from the south and you are all good - thank me later)

Also mostly fly in mountains and roleplay stuff like short deliveries here and there and the occasional sudden inflight call for a emergency pickup of patients that need a lift to a bigger city.

I love the VFR but i also look forward to the IFR stuff when the sim is fixed.

Fly safe.

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#2

I have another one:

When engaging in some group flights, after landing, please don’t back-taxi down the runway then park your aircraft right on the threshold. There are other people coming in to land. Hold short, people! :slight_smile:

I like to have those nameplates on, so I can see how I am flying with, and even with that excellent mod that tightens that nameplate up, short final looks like a game of scrabble is going on ahead.

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#3

I’d like to add that there are several other speed limits around different airspace classes.

#4

FYI, IRL it happens quite often that ATC asks you to fly (a lot) faster than 250kts below 10000ft, departing and arriving.

#5

I guess because it is at their instruction, rather than your discretion, that makes this safe?

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#6

It also works the other way, if you politely ask ATC :wink:

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#7

You should be 240 kts under 10000 feet and as a good general rule, 10 miles out from the airport be about 180 kts. And reduce your speed from there.

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#8

Yes i am aware of that, but as a rule of thumb or when in doubt then do not exceed 250kts below 10000ft unless instructed by ATC.

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#9

I’d already be happy if some pilots wouldn’t take the tailwind runways all the time.

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#10

If I can remember correctly from my real world training, the max 250kts limit below 10000ft is there because of being able to fly safe yet in case of the worst allowed VFR meteo conditions, so your response time before collision based on actual visibility will be enough to avoid. In better meteo conditions atc may allow flying faster.

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#11

The whole hard limit 250kts max bellow FL100 is a US regulation made by the FAA and does not work the same way in europe. There are many more variations

#12

That’s one OCD habit I need to work on !!!

#13

In Europe, it is common for controllers to waive the 250 knot speed restriction below 10,000 feet. In the US, controllers cannot legally do so under FAA regulations. It is permitted for an aircraft to exceed 250 knots in climb if its weight requires a faster speed with zero flaps (typically a fully loaded 747 or similar aircraft on departure), but that is the only time the 250 knot restriction can be ignored.

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#14

Sauce? I’ve yet to see this.

#15

Franks was always my favourite. :wink:

Try the new v2 Green one, it’s really nice.

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#16

Thanks! And yes I do like the green ones. It’s got radar screen vibes. I’ll install them once I find the runway through 8000 foot clouds.

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#17

OK, to be more accurate, according to EASA (European Aviation Safety Agency) this rule (max 250kts below 10000ft] applies for VFR flights within airspaces of class C, D, E, F and G. For IFR flights in classes D, E, F and G.

#18

There are a lot of exceptions to this rule, even in the US.

#19

I have done several trips to Kathmandu, Lukla and Paro IRL. Every time was in a Russian plane flown by a Nepali pilot trained in India. That adds so many new things to worry about. A sim can’t reproduce the feeling as the plane rises/falls on the way. It does an awesome job on the view. Spring and fall are best for clear skies.

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#20

Ohh forgot this:

  • Flying VFR i use “touch and go” so the ATC leave me alone when landed. And i can take off again when i like. Of cause if anyone is around i take off immediately. I do full stop to log the landing in the logbook.