Reno P 51 Fuel transfer/dump bug, some changes in SU13 beta

louma55 · March 23, 2023, 6:18pm

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Brief description of the issue:

with all p51 listed below from reno pack, in reno race or in free flight, when you select center tank or right tank, all the fuel of that tank goes into the left tank within seconds.
If left tank can contain all the fuel of the other selected tank, that issue leads to engine cutoff.
P 51D Bunny
F 51D Wee Willy
P 51D Lady B
P 51D ManO’War
P 51D Miss America : for this one, the fuel selector doesn’t match with selected tanks but the issue is here
P 51D Spam Can Dolly

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Example with Wee Willy
Left tank selected:

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Center tank selected, left tank filled in 50s:

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Detailed steps to reproduce the issue encountered:

Start a flight with one of the p51 listed with left tank not fuel, then select center or right tank.

PC specs and/or peripheral set up if relevant:

not relevant

Build Version # when you first started experiencing this issue:

first observe in SU12 beta, still present in SU12 1.31.22.0

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EnsiFerrum666 · March 26, 2023, 6:55pm

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louma55 · August 9, 2023, 7:16pm

Did a quick test with SU13 beta.
With the P51 bunny, started with engine running on runway, i selected fuselage tank : fuel is slowly increasing in left tank (a bit of improvement), and a bit slowly decreasing in fuselage tank. But after 5s engine the engine did stop, with still a lot a fuel in that tank.
Same effect when i selected right tank instead of fuselage tank.

walkaway353 · August 26, 2023, 3:21pm

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ContrivedTea675 · September 21, 2022, 8:58am

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no

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Brief description of the issue:

Miss america mustang right tank won’t give the fuel in the engine
no suck fuel from right tank

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not much. select right tank. and start the engine
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Build Version # when you first started experiencing this issue:

su9. right now

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i sure it’s not depend of any of things except bug inside model
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if you be kind would be nice if you check her

HamMan2118 · September 21, 2022, 10:51am

I believe the Miss America Mustang is a Third-Party plane. Contact the devs of the aircraft for support if that is the case.

ContrivedTea675 · September 21, 2022, 11:21am

i really don’t sure about that. because all mustangs from reno update was part of msfs team update, as i get it. i get all collection of reno and don’t sure i flew all of them. no. i certainly sure i don’t:) but miss america i flew today with broken right tank. but i didn’t try to use mouse cursor. it can help. just habit to use mouse wheel for change selector position

LiterateWolf963 · September 30, 2023, 3:57am

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Load into the sim with the P-51 “Miss America” plane.

Switch to the alternate fuel tank, and the engine will die. Even if the tank is supposed to be full.

Gromit1065 · October 2, 2023, 3:37pm

Yes and even their stand alone P51s are derived from the Reno ones. I have Man 'O War 414292 and it has had problems since day 1. Sim update 13 did something to it and it went from running for a while to not accepting throttle & dying on the tarmac. I reckon they found the faulty ‘gene’ but haven’t managed to fix it properly yet - if ever.

louma55 · March 13, 2024, 6:26pm

Bug is back on SU15 beta 1.37.8.0

ZeekR5430 · March 19, 2024, 9:15pm

I noticed that the left tank filling up when other tanks are selected is most likely the devs trying to simulate this feature of the p-51:

“…vapor return line to the left fuel tank… may become a fuel return line…”
Is that vapor return line just too aggressive compared to what would be expected in real life?

Edit: After a flight from London to Paris in the Man O’ War, the “backflow rate” doesn’t seem to be an issue actually. The rate the fuel is returning into the left tank is very manageable at the moment, at least for that P-51. This is on SU15 beta as of 3/20/2024.

Ryqnair · March 20, 2024, 7:51am

It’s way to aggressive unfortunately.

TheBlackWind977 · December 20, 2024, 6:34pm

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:
Fuel only flows from the left tank. The aircraft says you’re using the right, but it’s coming from the left. If you switch to the right tank, fuel gets cut off.

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue:
At least Miss America

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?
No

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)? Every time

REPRODUCTION STEPS

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Start up Miss America
Switch fuel to right tank (says left tank on fuel switch)
Wait for engine to die.

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2nd Gen 12 GB 3080

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i7 10700k w/ 32 GB of ram

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