Saved €€ for VisionJet, Caravan instead due to bug?

Hi,

I recently grinded enough money to buy a Vision Jet for my Charter Company. As most people already know, the missions are bugged and dont show up. At this point I dont know if it even makes sense to buy it, as nobody knows when the issue will get fixed, and I log in every day hoping its fixed, and end up just doing 1 or 2 cargo missions.

Would you guys suggest waiting for the bug to get fixed and follow my initial goal that I’d have more fun with and buy the Vision Jet? Or should I keep grinding, get the Caravan and just buy the Jet whenever the bug is fixed?

Also, for those that eventually bought the Caravan, did you sell your Cessna or keep it as a second plane with Crew turned on for passive income?

Thanks for any Feedback :slight_smile:

I’d go for the Caravan since cargo mission pay 10x what you get with the Vision Jet. 1-2 missions and you’ll have enough to buy the Vision Jet.

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Buy the PC-12 for your cargo company. Its better than the carsvsn and you get much more money for cargo.

Rn im in cargo, since sll charter flights disappear and make around 5mio per day, for this money i buy new pc-12 snd turn on crew snd save more money for my pc-24 VIP charter jet.

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I actually had no clue it was that much more with medium cargo. Only “issue” is that I will need to grind many small cargo missions with the 172 to afford it -.-

@ORFK I did find people in the forum mentioning the PC12 had many bugs. Is it safe to use now if i preadjust the altitude to 18k for oxygen?

Do you have unlocked medium cargo in tokio?

For me its working. I simply dont fly higher than FL190. Thats safe rn and you can fly everywhere.

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I have an area unlocked just south of Tokyo with only light cargo missions available (also as Employee). Should I be doing more in this area?

@PC12 Ah good to know. Is it quicker to grind with the 172 all the way till I can buy a new PC12 directly, or buy a Caravan first for approx. 2.8m CR and use that to fly medium cargo till I can buy the PC12?

I am also unsure if keeping the 172 for passive income is worth it.

Thanks for all your advice!

You had in tokio a golden medium cargo mission to unlock medium cargo missions. In this mission you flew with a caravan to an island.

If you have done this mission, you unlocked medium cargo and can do them in your own company too.

I still have my first 172, but dont know how long i will keep it. It doesnt matter, it csn generate a small passive income for you.

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Yeah I did that one, I almost have all specializations unlocked.

And would you recommend grinding directly for the PC 12 or get the Caravan first as its cheaper? Before I get stuck grinding with the Cessna nearly twice as long.

The PC12 is better to fly but the Caravan doesn’t have the altitude bug. Also ALWAYS check the departure and destination airport sizes to make sure the runways are long enough.

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I think the pc-12 is better to fly and needs shorter runways. It dornst cost that much more that it would be worth to buy the csravan first. I think the caravan is too expensive related to the better pc-12

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I appreciate all the advice!! Thank you :slight_smile:

Then I will keep grinding these days for the PC12, if I get lucky the VIP missions will get fixed before that.

You can use a higher simrate to finish missions faster and dont have to skip. This gives you more money.

Whats the price difference between these planes?

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The used caravan is half the price of pc-12, which is only available new. I think going for the caravan before pc-12 is actually better. Also the missions do not offer more money for pc-12, you can just take longer missions, but those not necessarily pay more. I find caravan to be able to land on much shorter runaways than pc-12 usually, and it is easier to maintain if you run in to a bug or crash. Around 6-10 medium cargo mission will get you a pc-12 price even if you skip the cruise. The pc-12 is much nicer to fly thats true, so its worth to take it when you can, but a caravan is actually a great jump before that.

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To be fair I use SimRate in every single flight haha. I only slow down to appreciate somee sceneries or nature.

The Caravan (including repairs) would be around 2.8m Cr., and the PC12 I can only buy new for 4.8m Cr. I am trying to do as many of the 2.5 hour + missions now that pay me around 100k Cr. per flight (almost S rated), but oh boy it will take a while!

EDIT: @KiaraLeona that is actually what I was contemplating. Knowing myself I will get bored of the 172 pretty quick and if the Caravan pays more, yeah it will set me back to 0 but I have a different plane to learn and earn more than with the Cessna, so it will still be a grind but a different one

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With the caravan a no skip mission with bad weather can net you 1.3 mil, 900k with no bad weather and 5-800k without any bonus. If you skip the cruise you can do about 4 mission per hour, and with avarage 600k, that means in 2 hours you can buy the pc-12. Its basically what I did.

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That is some good strategy there…I like it!

Change of plans, I might go with this one to change things up a little. Guess I need 2m Cr. now, probably around 20 flights with the 172 including repairs, fuel and travel. Hopefully the pay increases a little more when I reach S, I am centimeters off

If you are S, the pay is +20%, so its 10% more than A, which is quite a difference for bigger paying missions.

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Just got the S-Rating, that 10% is going to help a lot!

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I did buy the Caravan as a stopgap on the way to the PC 12, but it was very frustrating. In the sim, the plane is very unstable in mild to moderate winds, which is visually annoying in cruise, and I have had trouble landing it. So often, on landing, once on the runway in a crosswind you land, try to correct for the crosswind with cross controls, but still manage to flip over onto the wing, resulting in a crash, and no money, after 3 hours of flying. The PC12 is a much more stable platform (in this sim anyway) and much easier to avoid crashing after landing. The PC12 also cruises almost twice as fast, with similar fuel burn so it’s a better plane for longer distance missions.

I will say though, that getting enough money for the PC 12 using the 172, will take a long time, whereas only 4-6 flights with the Caravan will get you a PC 12 (if you can land it without crashing), maybe 3 flights if you plan to trade the 208 in. I like to have a couple of planes on different continents, in case all the missions on one continent dries up, so I kept the 208 in Europe (hopefully to be replaced soon with another PC12) and traded in my other 208 for a PC12 in Australia and Vision Jet in US

The pc-12 is definitely the better aircraft, but I think the caravan is way better than the 172, and only needed for a short while. I actually liked the caravan, and even flew it when I already had the pc-12. It had its oddities, but it was easy to land on very small runaways, so I could accept a lot more medium cargo with it than with the pc-12, which I felt needed somewhat more runaway length. I didn’t have much trouble with it in bad weather, but I guess that can depend on the location as well. I did about 30 flights with it, some of them from and into very dodgy airports, but no issues or crashes. None the less, the pc-12 is a smooth ride for sure.

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