September 14, 2023 Development Update Blog Discussion

A sinking ship with a couple million happy customers! Right. :rofl:

I sure spend an awful lot of time strolling the decks of the sinking ship.

For some strange reason, it never goes down.

You are 100% correct when you say that nobody knows the details of the backlog- no doubt about it.

When we’re only given the numbers plus a generic copy/paste statement which say’s ā€œThe MS test process is currently going through iteration, so our backlog numbers are fluctuatingā€- then naturally we go off the numbers.

However, they aren’t exactly helping themselves here in terms of trying to clarify… Many of us have asked on this blog what that statement means over the last ~4+ weeks and no one has received a response. It would take them maybe a few minutes to clear it up, and maybe that’ll happen on the next stream, but that hasn’t happened.

I have found this style of communication around here to be a drag. There’s been a number of different times over these years where people have asked for clarification on some topic related to the sim and have received silence, myself included.

It’s the silence that bothers me. Look, I get it, there are corporate reasons that further information is not going to be revealed to us, but I wish they would just acknowledge that we have asked and a simple, ā€œhey, we would love to reveal more, but we cannot at this time.ā€ would go a long way to feel like their calls for discussion (they, MS, are the ones that post these development updates and the subsequent discussion threads) show they are involved in being a part of the discussion.

Often, it feels like they drop these sorts of things on us and then they disappear.

I’d really love to feel like there was a CM that popped up more often on the forum and participated more actively throughout this place to give that extra bit of presence that, even if an illusion, they are here and actively participating in our discussions.

I frequently feel like the times they do pop up is when we point out that they aren’t here and they come to defend themselves.

Our role as a Community Manager first and foremost is to listen! We all collectively spend a tremendous amount of time reading the forums, alongside a multitude of other platforms, to gauge community sentiment on a wide variety of topics. You also have to respect that this is not our only responsibility as a CM, and that we have a multitude of other tasks throughout the working week to complete.

As you mentioned yourself, there may be certain topics that we are not able to respond to, and we unfortunately aren’t able to respond to every thread we read acknowledging its importance.

As I have already mentioned to yourself on another thread, we value and appreciate all of the feedback received on the forums…be it positive or negative.

Thanks for always sharing your honest thoughts with us. We strive to ensure you are all having a positive experience both in the sim, and on the forums too! :slightly_smiling_face:

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I definitely know this, which is why I wish we had a CM whose main task is to be here and actively dialoging with us.

I’ve noted a marked difference in your communications style — directly with me a couple of times now — and I really appreciate it.

I’m glad you’re here and in saying that I am not knocking Seedy and Jayne. Much of my frustration(?) is borne from the fact that I genuinely like the two of them and enjoy their personalities and presence in the Community Fly-In Fridays. I wish we could get more of them here on a regular basis that isn’t quite so insulated through the filter of their corporate responsibilities.

My take all comes from a good place and not one of overt criticism or harshness.

lucky you, i also spent a lot of my freetime in fs2020, and everytime its a hit or miss, 50/50 i cant play the game because of several bugs/errors/ctds

I would love if someone would please address the issue of DX12 Texture Bleed Trough bug. It’s been an open issue for more than 8 months.

I want to clarify that I wasn’t trying to diminish your experience, either.

I know, first hand, that the sim can behave in different ways for all of us.

Have you taken steps to simplify your install and see if it becomes more stable, as a result?

I rarely, rarely have CTDs (other than during betas, which is a separate issue). The bugs, yes, they exist and can definitely be annoying, but I’ve managed to do my best to avoid and/or work around the ones that impact me most.

I would really like to see this addressed, too. It’s extreme on my system. I get the sense it’s worse for those of us with AMD GPUs and less so for nVidia users.

this is partially what i was alluding to. We’re not getting the whole picture and sometimes we just have to step back and say ā€œokay hey there will be a devstream, thats honestly our best chance for ā€œconcreteā€ answers.ā€

Not my experience with a 6800XT and current drivers. Be aware however, the issue of Win10/11 replacing drivers to a old(er) version can & does still happen. I had it this happen about 3 months ago.
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Once again, this sim’s consistency is its inconsistency!

What resolution and graphic settings (generally) do you run?

I’m at 4K Ultra+ with an RX 7900 XTX. It’s definitely not a driver issue in my case.

It always amuses me the unreasonable critical dissenting opinions like ā€œsinking shipā€ and on and on. I have done my honey do’s and I am released to play MSFS. I’m planning a at least a 8 hours + session. Got the sim tweaked up to the Max. No issues at all. It is such a joy to play.! Keep up the good work MS/Asobo. Ah but first a few games of World of Tanks. lol

lol. Right? Please can we get some really awesome airliners?! Sad we still have no A380, A350, B777 (I know, PMDG…), etc.

True, but imagine this… (not that it would happen)… Imagine an A350 announced and… it’s developed by Aeroplane Heaven. Or Carenado. :wink: Nah. Keep those birds away from any of Microsoft partners/co-developers. Those are best done by someone unrelated. :wink:

It could be general rule of thumb that the more complex a plane becomes, you want that in the hands of developers with a pedigree of making said complex aircraft, and proven they are up to the task.

Looking at the number of bug reports in this forum for the ATR, let’s see if there is a Expert Series II at all.

And with FS24 coming, we saw the beluga (inibuilds?) and the A400m. I think that’s more than enough.

Well at least we now know it will be a Japanese aircraft. Wonder what their least-known amphibian is? :thinking:
Regards

How do we know this? I must have missed where that was hinted.

ā€œI asked Neumann about aircraft, past and future. We were able to exclusively learn that the Local Legend that will be released on September 21 is a Japanese aircraft to celebrate Tokyo Game Show. More info will be shared at Microsoft’s presentation which is also taking place on September 21st.ā€œ
From the interview (I believe first posted by Andys2790] at

Regards
PS. I was being facetious about it being an amphibian. No clue which plane it is.