Hi all,
I am running FS2020 with a Ryzen 9300, the RTX 3080OC and the Pimax 8KX. So far it works fine, still the frame rates drop in some areas with high/ultra settings (wish there was already a tool like the FSX Fiber Accelerator, that sets the options dynamically according to current frame rate).
A bigger problem is the tracking. The Pimax has a 9 axis tracking, which does not include leaning forward and sidewards. I can do this with the lighthouse tracking, but the precision of the tracking is not so high, that there is no jittering, which is extremely disturbing in the cockpit.
So I came to the conclusion to use 9 axis tracking and add the missing axis (up/down, forward/backward, lean left/right) with Track IR. This works, but it not really as intended to be.
Does anybody has another solution regarding the tracking in seating position?
I would track the framerate, but as far as I have seen therefore I need to turn on the toolbar, where my game crashes/ gets stuck. So I could not test.
Hi, my Pimax 8kx is just on the way. I was planning to buy one vive base station for tracking. But since I read your post im a little bit afraid that the overall VR experience is not worth the money Or would you still spend that money in my case?
Other option for me would be the Oculus Quest 2.
I have Track IR too by the way. Is your idea of combining VR and TrackIR working decently?
I was thinking of getting the Pimax 8K-X too. Not sure if i still should or not. I have the
Oculus Rift S and it is ok, but really like the wide 200ā FOv that the Pimax can offer.
Any feedback on how the Pimax is working out , overall with MFS ? Can you get a 200 degree FOV ? Is it overall good to use, or are there any major problems with it and MFS ?
@Roadrunner8414
i got no tracking problems using the 8kX with lighthouse. Are you using 1 or 2 stations? if 2 try to turn off one station an look how it goes.
i use one of the 1st gen lighthouses
@SlidHydra647449
i own the 8kx and a modded reverb g2. Although i find the 8kx is the better headset for sim racing in general (FOV, software ipd adjustments, lots of settings to tweak in pitool), keep in mind that you have to turn on parallel projection in pimax software to avoid culling in FS2020 wich gives a ~30% decrease of performance. Thats why i prefer the G2 until this culling issue is fixed
What do you mean by ācullingā ? Is that a decrease in FPS , or decrease in the FOV.
I have an Oculus Rift S, so trying to figure out what to upgrade to, if it is worth going to the Pimax , or a G2. (But i love the wider FOV of the Pimax).
I donāt have msfs at the moment. Iām waiting for more improvements in performance. I can tell you about DCS and Flyinside. I can move my head in any direction, forward and backward as well, up and down, everything is right. The difference between 8k and 8kx is very big. For me, for that price, it is the only one with that resolution and fov. I wouldnāt buy the 8k for simulation, only for experiencies like half alyx. For simulation you need more resolution to see far. I would recomend at least a 2080ti. It is the one I have. Maybe I will buy the 3080ti or wait until the 4000 series. I use the normal fov that is quite a lot. For more fov more gpu. The normal fov is bigger than any current hmd.
The hand tracking is another thing only for hands. Without the base station you can still use it but you canāt move forward-backwardā¦
I went from original Vive to Pimax 5K XR? (The OLED one) now I have the 8KX. There is a huge noticeable difference because there is no SDE at all. PQ is really good and in my opinion worth it but may not be worth to others if your wallet is not full. If you have extra money then I would go for the 8KX. If you have a VR HMD that has no SDE and you are getting good fps in games then I would just keep what you have. However, of your fov is under 110-130 then I would upgrade. IMO anything under 130 fov is small. I adjusted the contrast, brightness and backlight level settings and it made a huge difference with colors in games. Lastly, playing MSFS is a PIA right now. I always have some type of issue when starting up, eventually I get going and it is fun. I guess it is because MSFS and VR is new so it will take some time for them to be like DCS. The experience of flying a 747 in VR is awesome but then you have put all of the settings on low for it to run with 35 fps and I have a RTX 3090 and i9-9900K with 32M ram. That ruins the experience but it looks better than Xplane 11. Bottom line, if you have the extra money just buy it. If you donāt like it just return it. For me I love no SDE and better PQ. Sorry for typos and errors.
I somehow managed to combine trackir with the clip attached to the 8kx, after just setting a 1to1 trackir profile and playing (increasing )with the neutral zones a little bit, but the experience was a little ā ā ā ā , due to tracking latency and stuttering. Got a single lighthouse v1 and finally had this working perfectly and natively. So yes, it works but it isnāt enjoyable at all, only better than not using anything and having the feeling of the head stuck jn a cockpit āpointā only turning sideways/up and down but unable to come closer to panels or a window which doesnāt feel that realistic.
Hi all!
This is great to read. Iāll add my experience with the pimax 8kx.
Like @ManAmalReacts, I went from Vive to 8kx. Am running a 2080 Ti on a 4.7ghz i7.
After a lot of fiddling, I found the following settings give a good compromise between beauty and frame rate.
Before anyone freaks out, I know this level of SS is waaaaayyyy below taking advantage of the 8kx panels full resolution. But the truth seems todayās hardware just literally canāt render pixels at sufficient bandwidth for that. And I was amazed at how good it looks even with relatively low SS, because even this low SS setting is close to native at the center of the view, and that with the lack of SDE is great.
Iām running SS30%, TAA100, most settings medium or high. Pimax FOV small (still huge compared to Vive. Could probably do Normal without being too different).
To get a feel for the future, I turned FOV down to potato and SS to 100%, and you can see what it will be like when computers can render 4k per eye (or do foveated rendering adequately). Itās going to be awesome. In the meantime, I can live with using the VR focus when I need to see the vertical FPM numbers on the glass cockpit. Everything else legible on the 8kx small fov at 30 to 35 %SS with graphics settings med/high.
And I should say I think Iām about 20 to 25 fps with those settings in a 172 g1000, 30 to 35 in a steam gauge only AC. Mostly doing bush trips these days.
And I forgot to comment on tracking. Iām using 2x HTC vive 1.0 base stations. The pimax tracking is not as good as the vive. Sitting still looking forward in cockpit you can have jitter of the cockpit. It comes and goes. I havenāt experimented too much to try to fix it - itās not terrible and once youāre into the flight and moving your head around you donāt really notice. And sometimes I think itās not there.
On balance with these issues I think if you are not a huge FOV fan, I can see why the G2 is probably at the sweet spot of what computers can do. So I just told my dad to get one, going to try that out in a couple weeks!
Sure thing! I realize I didnāt have fpsVR up, but the Steam monitor says 31.7ms ā so 1/0.0317s = 31.5 FPS, which jibes with what I felt and fpsVR gives.
Sounds like your experience is similar. Screenshots below.
Wait wow - it works without PP checked!???! Thatās supposed to buy you 30% more FPS! Iāll try that! I thought Pimax hadnāt implemented that yet. Or maybe FS2020 needed to implement it. Either way iām going to try unchecking it! Something about frustrums, non parallel viewpoints.
The SteamVR resolution of 100 is overridden by the āPer Applicationā setting of 30%, I believe, so thatās a bit misleading - in game it should be 30%. It must be, FS2020 dies if it tries to render enough pixels for 100% of pimax res, even at Small FOV. Slideshow then crash.
Yes, annoyingly I believe because I didnāt not buy FS through Steam, I can only access the per-application settings for FS2020 when both FS2020 and SteamVR are running. I have to alt tab out of FS2020 into SteamVR settings. Then if you change per application SteamVR settings, I think itās safest to reboot FS2020, doesntā always take with just jumping in and out of VR mode in FS, but it might.
Or would you still spend that money in my case?
