Several airplanes damaged

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue: These planes are damaged not working as before, 787, Daher, Cessna Longitude. A310-300. And the 727 has always had the problem as the DC3

These planes tend to bank to one side or to the other instead of flying straight.

Let’s start by saying I fly them as “default”, that means,start on the runway ready for take off, I don’t mess with the cockpit stuff settings.I’m not interested in touching anything inside the cockpit, and they have flow fine since FS9, same as in P3D, that means I don’t fly inside the cockpit

Second I use keyboard and mouse, yes, that is and will always be my preference.The platform allows this option therefore everything should work under that choice.And if I have set a keyboard command the planes should follow this command. I have set #5 in the numbers pad for the plane to flight straight, or keep the angle of bank chosen by using the arrows.

The DC-3 after running on the runway it starts turning and it is impossible to make it goes straight, you have only left, to try to take off, however, if you can take off under that condition, the 99% of the times is a crash

The Cessna Longitude, the Daher and the 787, tend to bank too, even if you are not banking they decide to do it just because. Worst thing is that if you press the right arrow to turn right it goes left violently, and vice-versa. If you manage to go straight and then you bank a bit and press 5 to keep the position the plane violently goes on that side or the other.

The 727 is a constant battle to keep it straight, and usually when selected and hit fly the sim crashes. I have to restart to be able to use it. Disgusting. I deeply regret the purchase of those two.

The 787 tends to be a bit more steady but has the same issue, same as the Cessna Longitude they end uncontrollable.

The Daher under these circumstances tends to lose the sustainability very easy

The A310-300 is a junk, the animations in the cockpit are dead, no touch down sound in external view, you press F4 for full power it does nothing. It constantly takes control itself while I’m in command, it accelerates and despite I disconnect the autopilot it starts it again. This is the worst plane ever.

So far and fortunately all the others work fine, yet.

Captain Sim, LatinVFR, Aerosoft, SkySimulations all work perfect with no issues.So why can’t the others and even more the default ones?

If these have been modified for third party to work that’s not the way. And if any change is made for joysticks to work it should not alter the keyboard functionality

Can you fix this problem? I hope not to be facing the end of this game for me.

FREQUENY OF ISSUE

Always

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

  1. Launch the game

  2. Select any of those planes ready at the departure spot press F4 and fly

  3. Expect the issue and try to control it with your keyboard.

YOUR SETTINGS

If the issue still occurs with no mods and add-ons, please continue to report your issue. If not, please move this post to the User Support Hub.

This is not an add-ons issue is a problem the plane not responding to the set keyboard command, mainly number 5 for flying straight.

What peripherals are you using, if relevant:

Keyboard and mouse

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?

NO developer mode

[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?

DX11

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?

Asus motherboard H110M-A /Asus GeForce Tuf gaming GTX 1660 Super OC (6G) /Intel(R) Core™ i7-6700 CPU @ 3.40 GHz - 32 GB RAM -Windows 11 - 55" TV screen as monitor

MEDIA

I uploaded 6 videos to Mega to this folder hoping they are useful as example of the behavior

Thanks

Carlos

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I am expecting a reply from Asobo/MSFS about this

As of today NOTHING has been solved

Specially the useless 727

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Moved to User Support Hub as no one has submitted a corroborating reproduction of the issue since 18-AUG-2025.

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Hello, I have used the template above…

I have clearly explained the situation too and provided videos

I found hard that someone can replicate the issue because most of the people use joystick and similar things and they do configure the plane in the cockpit

I use keyboard and mouse and don’t touche anything in the cockpit. I fly the most default and standard way. F1 to F8, dots, arrows, and number pad for views

I have set in the number pad certain “commands” for the plane to follow. Specially #5 that keeps the plane flying straight in the position I chose, weather straightforward of banking. Every plane follows this except, the 787 ( after the release of the third party one) all pmdg (therefore deleted) the Daher, and the Cessna Longitude. The other behavior is explained about and the videos are clear to understand.

I simply need these planes to behave like ANY other default one, they all follow the command set in the keyboard so something has be altered in these ones.

The A300 doesn’t even follow the basic F4 for full power doesn’t have touch down sound in external view, is a junk.

I uninstalled yesterday both 727 as it crashes my sim, unacceptable.

Captain Sim, LatinVFR, Aerosoft, SkySimulations all work perfect with no issues in the most basic standard way. So why can’t the others and even more the default ones?

Is there a way to see the configuration of the plane in the xlm /json / bgl files? I don’t know which it the file used to configure the plane to follow commands. Maybe I can compare any default plane that is working fine against one that is not “obeying” the keyboard command and they I can edit it to solve it.

Thanks

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Part of the issue is that you have third party planes mixed in with stock ones. Bug reporting is strictly for stock aircraft only.

The other part is that without someone reproducing the issue (and yes, part of that is whether they have the equipment, time or interest), then we can’t even begin to send this up to Asobo to say “hey more than two people can make this happen - please investigate.”

Given you have a lot of detail, just open a Zendesk Ticket directly using the Support Link at the top of the forum pages. That will get someone from Microsoft to look at directly.

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Ok, I’ll create the ticket though I know where that leads to.

On the other hand I don’t have the third party planes for the ones presenting issues, they had been deleted, but I do have other third party planes, isn’t about that what the sim is about? Selling products..Wasn’t the platform indented to have stock products and third part ones? Should there no be an issue then.

On the equipment yes, I know many like peripherals, that is just a matter of taste and should not be an issue as the platform allows both ways, keyboard and mouse and others. The team should be able to test as I believe everybody has a keyboard and mouse. Anybody can select a plane ready for take off and fly as the most easiest default way. The willing to do it, is another story.

Lastly, even if it is one person with the issue, it should be revised. We should not only pay attention to the masses, every customer counts.Every customer adds money to the franchise. If problems like this continue then what is the point in supporting the game?, wouldn’t it be better to just drop it to avoid the stress? And that is how easy a client is lost.

Anyway, I do appreciate your reply, I thank you for that.

Miracles can happen I guess, and probably I’ll get a useful reply for the Zendesk this time, who knows..

Best regards

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Certain planes having a swing to the side from prop torque is actually normal realistic behaviour. The DC-3 is an example of this. And without a joystick or rudder control hardware, it can indeed be a challenge to keep it straight on the runway.

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Bug reporting for third party aircraft should go directly to be their manufacturers. This isn’t done here on the forum for a variety of logistics and legal purposes.

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Hi, Mucus

Ok, I got it, that makes sense, it is a reasonable reply, thank you so much.

So, I guess that setting an “auto rudder” won’t help for this plane?

Is it totally dependent on the joystick or rudder control hardware? Why would it not “obey” the “auto rudder” function?

Is it made to only follow the peripherals?

Regards

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Hi, but I am reporting on default planes, 787, Daher, Cessna Longitude, and isn’t the DC3 MSFS one?

I know the A300 and 727 are not, but at least the A300 is free and I understand it’s a collaboration between both isn’t it? Is there any shared responsibility? Because when I have asked about in the Inibuilds they say we sent the update to Asobo, or similar, so who’s responsible?

At least for the DC3 I got a better understanding based on Mucus reply but what happened with the 787 for example? It didn’t had that problem before until a third party came out with their version, that is what brings my attention, why the change in the default one?

Anyway, I hope they work as before someday. Thanks for your reply

Cheers

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Auto rudder doesn’t do what you seem to think it does. It doesn’t automatically keep the plane straight if it swings to the side. What it does is automatically apply rudder to keep turns coordinated when you move the ailerons to bank the plane in a turn. This prevents uncoordinated turns if you are using control hardware that doesn’t let you control rudder and ailerons together. Trying to do properly coordinated turns using the keyboard and mouse as your only controllers is well nigh impossible. You can operate the rudder via the keyboard but trying to get the right amount is very tricky like that.

The absolute best advice I can give you is to invest in a joystick, ideally one with a twist axis for rudder control. Even a cheap joystick will totally transform your flying experience and make everything way more enjoyable.

Another thing I’m not sure of but you hint at in your original post is that you are using F4 to move the throttle to maximum. If you whack the throttle up to max from a low setting on the runway, rather than increasing it gradually, will make the torque effect even harder to control, in my experience. I’m sure the more qualified pilots here could explain the physics better than I can. I can’t explain why this is happening for you on jets, which should be unaffected in this way.