Sim doesn't start any more after 2024-10-01 update - Remove Navigraph AIRAC Cycle

Oh just one question…
Especially for those who might have woken to this bug
How do we get to that part when our game is crashing on start up…? Is there a step before that one?

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I fell asleep last night and the last thing that worked was deleting a file in navigraph??
Do we still need to do this to get into msfs

Yes, you can follow the initial workaround to disable the “AIRAC Cycle 2409 rev.1” package within Navigraph Hub. This will allow you to launch MSFS normally. From there, you can delete the Bush Trip - Scotland package as described in the linked post above, exit the sim, re-enable the AIRAC package in Navigraph, then re-launch the sim.

Thanks,
MSFS Team

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Awesome thanks for that mate I just updated my original post for it to make sence but cheers…
So basically we delete that navigraph file, then delete that bush trip and then exit game and reinstall that navigraph file and it should all work..

Thanks guys for all your hard work while I decided to go to sleep…

This “go to sleep” trick… It’s amazing how many things it fixes…

Hangovers, headaches, a bad days work, a Minor argument with other half…
hell…
Even works for msfs :rofl::rofl:

Ok, but this way you eliminate the whole World Update XVII, not just the “Bush Trip - Scotland”, or am I wrong?

Hello @Grigna2020,

The instructions I posted in the linked thread show how to uninstall only the Bush Trip while keeping the rest of the World Update.

Thanks,
MSFS Team

The ‘beta enrolled’ people without the update got it rolled out this morning, but complete with the bug still there. Would have been better if the bugged update had been held back. At least there is a fix now. Thank you @RookieOneqc top quality debugging.

No flying for me this morning then. CTD after update. I’ve just disabled Navigraph airac so I can boot in again to then disable the Scottish bush trip before quitting reenabling navigraph and rebooting again. These boot ins on average are taking about 8-10 minutes each time.

and, all this for avionics updates to 3 aircraft i don’t fly. :neutral_face:

Updated fine this morning. NAVIGRAPH in place
I had NO Bushtrips installed prior.

Obviously the mentioned Bushtrip .

Found it & removed, thanks

Just how to un-install only the “Bush Trip Scotland”:

  1. remove the AIRAC update directly in the Navigraph Hub, so that the button will be back blue with “Install” as text

  2. start the sim and goto into Content Manager

  3. enter bush trip scotland in the search bar and press the list button on the left from SORT BY → as a result you should see only the BUSH TRIP entry

  1. Click on this entry and press the DELETE button (right lower corner) - confirm the message window with YES (that you are sure):

The result should be like:

  1. close the sim, re-install the AIRAC update via the Navigraph Hub

  2. start the sim again and you will see, that the sim starts without any CTDs any longer with the Navigraph navdata packages installed

No need to remove the Whole World update - only this bush-trip package is the issue.

Hope that helps
Richard

PS: @RookieOneqc I also can confirm that this solution works but I have two other devices here, where the Bush Trip package is installed with our data too without a CTD any longer - only removing the double SNFO entries - so, I assume it´s a combination of a few issues in this sim-update

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That is some excellent detective work, well done!

Please help! Even after uninstalling navigraph data my sim still won’t run!

If the ‘Bush Trip Scotland’ package has been out for ages, apparently without causing any issues, especially not the majority of users getting CTD, it surely must have been at least something to do with yesterday’s MSFS update.

Unless that bush trip was also updated yesterday and for some reason it was given a mistaken reference to an airport called “SNFO”, it does look like there might be multiple potential causes for this one.

An odd one, for sure.

Argggghhhh ! HELP
Stuck in a loop at Decompressing airbus-a320neo-1.021.fspatch

I wonder if a previous CTD might have somehow left a corrupted/incomplete version of one of the files that should be downloaded as part of the update and it is preventing it from being downloaded again?

CTD as well following update. Oh well only a couple of people use Navigraph ??? so no reason to test it…lol

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I checked it. No it wasn’t updated.
Removed it and it works with navigraph installed. Very strange, how a mission (with a flightplan and save file) can have a impact on that.

Thanks for that.

It’s an odd one for sure, as that bush trip was apparently happily coexisting with the Navigraph data and neither had been changed recently. It appears that the MSFS update somehow triggered both into having an issue and I guess, thankfully, the responsibility will lie with MS/Asobo to figure out why. :wink:

There are more than that, depending on what you have installed to begin with. This is what was updated for me.

Same problem experienced here.

A rousing endorsement of the QC team that will be bringing us MSFS '24, everybody!

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I dont see why these updates have to be mandatory, optional would be much better for people like me who dont use those aircraft that were updated.
Hopefully this will be addressed in 24.
But i thought it was suspicious how on update release no patch notes were given only where to report bugs.
Im guessing they knew in advance that there would be issues, in which case it should have been delayed untill the bugs were ironed out.

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