Simrate Adjustment must be disabled in Career mode!

Why does it matter if they are cheating the system when there’s no leaderboards or any kind of multiplayer aspect to the career mode?

It’s single player, play how you want to.

Literally making a mountain out of a molehill.

You might as well make the same argument for “free flight” mode then in this case and tell people that they can’t use sim rate in free flight, because it’s “cheating”.

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Exactly, there’s a reason the devs didn’t disable sim rate in career mode. If they wanted it disabled, they would have disabled it.

Yet they did disable the use of addons in career mode (specifically ones that show in the toolbar), so it’s obvious this wasn’t something missed by the devs, it was an intentional design choice to not disable sim rate in career mode.

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Some people have got only a couple of hours each night to fire up the sim and unwind and enjoy … why do you want to limit them to one takeoff and landing only every night …

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You can make the same argument for “free flight” as well then. Considering that Microsoft/Asobo want the sim to be as real as it gets, and yet they allow sim rate in free flight. Just like sim rate has been a staple of every single flight simulator.

It’s an intended feature to have sim rate enabled, just like it is in career mode, since those are both non-competitive modes.

Microsoft/Asobo are more into letting you fly your plane as real as you want to, not as real as they tell you.

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By itself, I like the idea of removing the acceleration of time. But this will require rebalancing all tasks and rewards. You can mark tasks that last more than an hour, and reward them more generously. And the distances between ordinary points are greatly reduced.

1 month later. Career mode is boring. I have done everything. I demand more !!! This is the issue with simrate, I do not care about how you play the game but it does not make the sense of progression the way it should be. The experience of earning your next aircraft has becomes nothing but a few simrate x4 flight instead of flying for weeks the same aircraft until you have enough money to get the next one.

If you want to play the way you want, Go on Free Flight , that’s what it was designed for. Asobo just need to add activities to free flight that way people can play the way you want and still maintain a sense of accomplishement in the career mode.

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Why faster sim rate when you can teleport? :rofl:

How you wanna solve this OP?
Are we now going to kill mods in a singleplayer game?

Its not a contest - its a singleplayer career.

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Then you shouldn’t have enabled sim rate and ruined it for yourself.

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This is has nothing to do with me. I was just pointing out that if you accelerate by 4x the progression rate in Career mode, you are taken away a sense of progression. It was design that you have to fly the C172 for extended period of time before you jump on something else, just like real life.

Either way, I think we have two train of thoughts on this subject and certainly don’t want to tell people how to play the game. My point was to issue a warning that if you do use simrate and you get bored because you have billions of dollars and there is nothing left to do, it was entirely your fault.

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How about you worry about your game experience and let others enjoy their game experience the way they want? Seriously.

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I can think of several reasons that devs added a skip bonus. The main one being engagement. If they allow everyone to earn the full amount without actually flying the mission then people will quickly earn more money than they will ever need, grow bored and stop playing.

While you and I may say, who cares, let them do that if they want. Devs want to keep people engaged and playing the title longer.

Maybe the skip bonus should not be all or nothing in the flight phase. If you have a 200 nm mission and you fly 100 miles of that the then give 50% of the skip bonus. That way it still acts as an incentive to actually fly as much of the missions as possible without locking people in for the full flight.

While I personally don’t care, I still would not be surprised to see Simrate disabled in career mode at some point. It just seems to make the No Skip bonus much less of an incentive.

I completely disagree with you.

when using sim rate, you still need to complete all procedures that you might otherwise skip. You essentially have to complete the entire flight and all related proc.s. You are most likely just sim rating the cruise portion of the flight or a long taxi at your own risk.

If you want to fly a 12 hour cross pacific flight without sim rate, be my guest. I don’t. I only enjoy the procedural portion of flights from start to ATC/taxi/TO etc… I spend as much time flight planning as flying sometimes in navigraph.

To each their own… not sure how people are “cheating” their own experience in single player… its not ranked. Why don’t you just play your game and let others play theirs.

Even if the system was ranked, there are better ways to handle this than removing an experience from people.

Still have the no skip bonus, because skipping is very different.

and also have a per minute credit bonus given for actual time flying. If you flew a 2hr mission in 20min, you will get 20min of credits… you spent 120 you get it all.

“those who want to complete mission reallistically”. settle down. I doubt you could complete a 12 hour cross atlantic flight in a VR headset without getting up or going to the bathroom etc…

Cheating isn’t even contextual when the system is single player and its obviously designed for your to be able to increase the sim rate just like it always has been.

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This is something I have learned about the human condition : The path of least resistance is always going to be taken. This is just the way human are. There is a shortcut, people will take it. If they want to use it, it’s their prerogative.

I was not telling anyone how to play. I was only giving a fair warning of “I told you so” when you get bored with career mode because you simrate 4x to get through it. If that’s what you want to do, more power to you but don’t come complain to Asobo that Career mode is too shorts, You have chosen this path so live with your choices.

They could cut Skip Bonuses based on the Simrate you are using. That way people can still simrate but at a cost. I saw someone on reddit that already had 310 millions in career and was about to buy the Beluga XL. Even if he can’t use it in Career because the certification is not availalbe at the moment. This is what I am talking about. Asobo wants people to be engage and simrate goes against that.

I do understand the progression rate is very slow. Maybe the biggest issue is pacing. Make it easier at first for people to get out of the C172 for the Vision Jet or the C208.

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I get “bored” on a 12 hour trans atlantic flight on autopilot. <

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So don’t do them ? it’s not like there is 100 more mission available…

Why would I not do them… I want to do them.

What exactly is your beef with how I play the game.

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This is a fair point, I think being stuck in the C172 so long at the start can get boring.

Career addons like NeoFly get around this by starting you out in your choice of plane, but they are all in a similar class to the C172.

Maybe pacing wouldn’t be so bad if MSFS’s career mode let you choose from 5 different planes at the start, but they’d all be similar to the C172.

I actually won the MSFS Cannonball run in December 2020. Hand flew a pitts special from JFK to LAX in real time, 17 hours and 6 minutes.

I’m a special breed. It was a fun experience and i enjoyed doing it alongside about 40 other similarly bred simmers.

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Should I fly 45 minute flights in a triple 7 and never be able to fly a departure or arrival chart?

Again… procedures are my thing… I will fly a few hours of them, but want to skip the autopilot legs

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The topic just got escalated to bug logged? Perhaps the developers agree with me? :saluting_face: