For option 1: 200% CR bonus
For option 2: 100% CR Bonus
For option 3: No CR Bonus
See. problem solved and yes I think Simrate is a bit cheapening the experience of Career mode because what should take you 45 minutes is now taking 10 minutes. In a month, people will be wondering why they no one is playing career anymore as they ran through it as fast as possible and now they are bored.
Just a thought.
So you think the intention of the developers was to force people to sit down for an 8 hour flight, or not play the game. To commit to 8 hours, or more sometimes, or go away? You actually think that? Iâm asking genuinely because Iâm a bit confused.
I donât understand why youâre being so aggressive. The ability to skip is available exactly for that reason. Its blatantly obvious this was the design decision to allow players to get through missions faster.
Why does it matter if they are cheating the system when thereâs no leaderboards or any kind of multiplayer aspect to the career mode?
Itâs single player, play how you want to.
Literally making a mountain out of a molehill.
You might as well make the same argument for âfree flightâ mode then in this case and tell people that they canât use sim rate in free flight, because itâs âcheatingâ.
Skipping is different because you miss scenery and points of interest. Plus skipping is a different set of playtime requirements. I also think itâs debatable that skipping should yield penalties.
Skip: I have 20-30 minutes to fly.
Sim Rate: I have an hour or two to fly.
No speed up: I have all day to fly.
I personally do not think people should be punished for being in the first category. As you said, it is not consistent. Punishing peopleâs time allowances is a VERY old game design practice.
Exactly, thereâs a reason the devs didnât disable sim rate in career mode. If they wanted it disabled, they would have disabled it.
Yet they did disable the use of addons in career mode (specifically ones that show in the toolbar), so itâs obvious this wasnât something missed by the devs, it was an intentional design choice to not disable sim rate in career mode.
Some people have got only a couple of hours each night to fire up the sim and unwind and enjoy ⊠why do you want to limit them to one takeoff and landing only every night âŠ
To be fair to them, the fact that there is a skip bonus at all is a discrepancy (kind of). Not to mention there is a bug currently where skipping also produces a penalty to the mission payout, on top of the lack of the bonus.
This is an inconsistent game design. So their confusion about the game design choices I do understand. I just think we should go the opposite direction to make it consistent than they do.
Why is there a skip bonus at all? Just remove skip bonuses and penalties and make the mission payouts what they are. Let people play how they want to. Sometimes I want to do a full vatsim flight. Other times I just want to get on and chill out. Sometimes I wanna sim rate to the rockies part of a flight because the rocky mountains look cool AF in the game. Sometimes people donât have a lot of time to give, ever. For many people they have as little as an hour a week to play games.
No one should be punished or left behind because of this. If we accept that the no skip bonus should stay then I could see an argument for dividing no skip bonus by some total amount sped up. Otherwise why punish people for skipping as he says? Itâs inconsistent game design. They should remove the punishment for skipping, or make sim rate consistent with the bonus to make the game design make sense.
This is why itâs best to not attack people personally. I think you will find most people are nice, and they do not mean harm if you sit down and talk to them and hear them. My preference would be to remove this system that punishes time requirements entirely, but Iâm also not against them scaling the no skip bonus based on sim rate speed either.
However, they SHOULD NOT remove the sim rate function. There is a difference between modifying the no skip bonus to make sim rate consistent with skipping or doing real time, and removing sim rate entirely.
You can make the same argument for âfree flightâ as well then. Considering that Microsoft/Asobo want the sim to be as real as it gets, and yet they allow sim rate in free flight. Just like sim rate has been a staple of every single flight simulator.
Itâs an intended feature to have sim rate enabled, just like it is in career mode, since those are both non-competitive modes.
Microsoft/Asobo are more into letting you fly your plane as real as you want to, not as real as they tell you.
By itself, I like the idea of removing the acceleration of time. But this will require rebalancing all tasks and rewards. You can mark tasks that last more than an hour, and reward them more generously. And the distances between ordinary points are greatly reduced.
1 month later. Career mode is boring. I have done everything. I demand more !!! This is the issue with simrate, I do not care about how you play the game but it does not make the sense of progression the way it should be. The experience of earning your next aircraft has becomes nothing but a few simrate x4 flight instead of flying for weeks the same aircraft until you have enough money to get the next one.
If you want to play the way you want, Go on Free Flight , thatâs what it was designed for. Asobo just need to add activities to free flight that way people can play the way you want and still maintain a sense of accomplishement in the career mode.
Why faster sim rate when you can teleport? 
How you wanna solve this OP?
Are we now going to kill mods in a singleplayer game?
Its not a contest - its a singleplayer career.
Yes but that is a you problem. You chose to use it. You did not have to do that. Just because you do not have willpower is not an excuse to remove a feature for other players who do have it.
EDIT: If your primary concern is a lack of content, you absolutely should criticize that and levy it at the developers of the game. Just donât use it to try to get an accessibility option removed.
Then you shouldnât have enabled sim rate and ruined it for yourself.
This is has nothing to do with me. I was just pointing out that if you accelerate by 4x the progression rate in Career mode, you are taken away a sense of progression. It was design that you have to fly the C172 for extended period of time before you jump on something else, just like real life.
Either way, I think we have two train of thoughts on this subject and certainly donât want to tell people how to play the game. My point was to issue a warning that if you do use simrate and you get bored because you have billions of dollars and there is nothing left to do, it was entirely your fault.
How about you worry about your game experience and let others enjoy their game experience the way they want? Seriously.
I can think of several reasons that devs added a skip bonus. The main one being engagement. If they allow everyone to earn the full amount without actually flying the mission then people will quickly earn more money than they will ever need, grow bored and stop playing.
While you and I may say, who cares, let them do that if they want. Devs want to keep people engaged and playing the title longer.
Maybe the skip bonus should not be all or nothing in the flight phase. If you have a 200 nm mission and you fly 100 miles of that the then give 50% of the skip bonus. That way it still acts as an incentive to actually fly as much of the missions as possible without locking people in for the full flight.
While I personally donât care, I still would not be surprised to see Simrate disabled in career mode at some point. It just seems to make the No Skip bonus much less of an incentive.
No I understand this, I was asking that more to prove a point about the inconsistency of the skip bonus itself. If skip bonus translates to a time investment bonus, then I can see a very valid argument for scaling the skip bonus based on how much sim rate was used. It was almost kind of a rhetorical question.
They can go in either direction to make the game design make sense, removing it entirely, or scaling sim rate bonus. I was also trying to be fair to some of the other commenters who were getting blasted because this is an inconsistent game design decision. So from that perspective, I do see their confusion.
Although, I think to the vast majority of people, the solution to this game design inconsistency is not removing an accessibility option.
I completely disagree with you.
when using sim rate, you still need to complete all procedures that you might otherwise skip. You essentially have to complete the entire flight and all related proc.s. You are most likely just sim rating the cruise portion of the flight or a long taxi at your own risk.
If you want to fly a 12 hour cross pacific flight without sim rate, be my guest. I donât. I only enjoy the procedural portion of flights from start to ATC/taxi/TO etc⊠I spend as much time flight planning as flying sometimes in navigraph.
To each their own⊠not sure how people are âcheatingâ their own experience in single player⊠its not ranked. Why donât you just play your game and let others play theirs.
Even if the system was ranked, there are better ways to handle this than removing an experience from people.
Still have the no skip bonus, because skipping is very different.
and also have a per minute credit bonus given for actual time flying. If you flew a 2hr mission in 20min, you will get 20min of credits⊠you spent 120 you get it all.
âthose who want to complete mission reallisticallyâ. settle down. I doubt you could complete a 12 hour cross atlantic flight in a VR headset without getting up or going to the bathroom etcâŠ
Cheating isnât even contextual when the system is single player and its obviously designed for your to be able to increase the sim rate just like it always has been.
This is something I have learned about the human condition : The path of least resistance is always going to be taken. This is just the way human are. There is a shortcut, people will take it. If they want to use it, itâs their prerogative.
I was not telling anyone how to play. I was only giving a fair warning of âI told you soâ when you get bored with career mode because you simrate 4x to get through it. If thatâs what you want to do, more power to you but donât come complain to Asobo that Career mode is too shorts, You have chosen this path so live with your choices.
They could cut Skip Bonuses based on the Simrate you are using. That way people can still simrate but at a cost. I saw someone on reddit that already had 310 millions in career and was about to buy the Beluga XL. Even if he canât use it in Career because the certification is not availalbe at the moment. This is what I am talking about. Asobo wants people to be engage and simrate goes against that.
I do understand the progression rate is very slow. Maybe the biggest issue is pacing. Make it easier at first for people to get out of the C172 for the Vision Jet or the C208.