Smoke on Water

ISSUE DESCRIPTION

When flying over big water bodies these strange black clouds appear. They are not the same as the lines that appear on water surfaces that have been already reported.
These things move.
They emerge from the water looking like little puffs of smoke, growing larger as they ascend and then dissolve.

They can be made to go away immediately by changing the view direction but they will reappear every now and then.

Coordinate or location of issue: the screenshot was taken on the Baltic Sea west of Kuehlungsborn and Rerik (EDCR).

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

every time I reach large water surfaces.

REPRODUCTION STEPS

-take off in any aircraft and climb to say 3000’
-fly towards an ocean or very big lake

YOUR SETTINGS

No special settings scenery wise, just pure FS2024 as it was initially installed on my XboxX. I have disabled all assistances and the like.
Only add on is the A2A Comanche 250, the native 2024 version.
Status is “streamed”.

What peripherals are you using:

Honeycomb Alpha XPC and Bravo
Turtle Beach flightstick and rudder
MIAP Pro 24
USB-keyboard w. US-layout and trackball

MEDIA

Hope this is useful.

Kind regards,
Frank

Cannot replicate at same location 54.156331 11.714311 (ms-store).

Note sure if your aircraft addon could generate this type of artefact but prior reporting an issue, always disable your addons and test again with a 1st party aircraft.

A fire in the sky…

:guitar:

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How long did you wait? They’ll not come up immediately and more on a random basis.
That’s why they are so difficult to catch on a screenshot. Also I see that you are in DEV-mode and on PC. I’m on XboxX. Could that make a difference?

I’ll test again with a stock Cessna but that is somehow laborious for me because my entire hardware is hand tailored for the Comanche and won’t work well with other planes.

I seem to recall though that I’ve also seen it flying the V-tail Bonanza but I’m not absolutely sure.

Regards, Frank

Here they are same place (west of EDCR) with a default c152:

Not as clearly visible as in my first post. As I said - it’s difficult to catch them.
These things move and change shape and gradually dissolve and the screenshot ist probably taken split seconds after pressing the button when they were already already about to fade away.

Hope this helps!
Regards, Frank

I tested again, flying around 15 minutes in this area with live weather and if zooming quite a lot I tend to see some black spots that could be what you are seeing but they are smaller and like flashing.
When you see those back smoke, if you go in external view are you still seeing them ?. I am wondering if they are not related to a propeller stroboscopic effect when viewing through it. Maybe on Xbox there is a graphic glitch resulting in a higher effect than on PC ?

Hi and thanks for testing again.

Yes, mostly they are smaler and only now and then rise up and grow before dissolving.

Not sure, I will test that tomorrow. But as I said as soon as you change the view (even only slightly panning left or right) they go away and I would probably have to wait a bit until the reoccur.

Hmmm… I don’t think so. The smoke puffs are always mostly arranged in long parallel lines as if they are marking the borders of adjacent water tiles. But this is only an uninformed assumption. I have no idea about how scenery is built.

An Xbox specific glitch is of course also possible.

Regards, Frank

…are underwater volcanoes modeled in MSFS?

Hi again,

here we go – same place, external view:

The effect was less pronounced today and is of course better visible on the big TV I use as a monitor on my XboxX.

I’ve been flying for half an hour and took a lot of shots also in other places (Rostock, north of Luebeck, heading towards Denmark…) but when transferring them to my iMac my old brain played tricks on me and I accidentally deleted some of them before they showed up on the computer. But this is the best I could get anyway.

Hope it helps…
Frank

Hi all,

I haven’t been flying over water for a while. But over the last few days I visited the same spots where I definitely have seen the smoke thingies before.

The good news is: they did not appear!

Maybe SU7 has ironed out that glitch. Fingers crossed!

Regards, Frank

I see these regularly, and believe they are artefacts of scenery tile edges - yes the black lines in water and sometimes on land - that somehow can be exagerated by combinations of settings like Frame Generation

If you see them post a screenshot of first page of MSFS graphics settings.