Still no in-cloud turbulence in live-WX (2024)

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:
In-cloud turbulence was/is sorely missing in MS2020.
Sebastian said the MS2024 density levels have been changed, and we will experience violent turbulence, up-/downdrafts etc in 2024.
Been storm chasing around the globe (Indonesia etc).
Found a ‘purple’(GTN750) storm cell in the Camair 480. No turbulence. No drafts.
AP kept wings level without any problems, maintaining altitude. Some minor shaking.

Thought maybe the planes with the ‘old’ flight model might not experience turbulence correctly. So swapped to the C172.
‘Red’ area on NEXRAD. Exactly same: no turbiulence. Steady as silk…

Where is the bad WX? Give us a reason to avoid bad WX. Now clouds are still just for looks…

The mechanical turbulence seems good though (but dont mistake that for in-cloud turbulence).
I also do get turbulence in any WX if the winds are gusting (like MS2020).
Turbulence setting=Realistic.

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0100Z 27.nov. Live WX. Indonesia etc.

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FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

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Couldn’t find any turbulence in any clouds. ie all the time.

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[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it? No.

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RTX4080.

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Awful isn’t it.
Some people are complaining about light to moderate turbulence and this is why Asobo doesn’t do realistic bad weather.

My wish is that they add a new “Realistic” mode and rename the current weather “Normal” or something. That way we can fly in realistic storms and suffer consequences of bad actions while most players can be happy with the current effects.

As and FYI, ActiveSky can give up to 2,000 fpm up/downdraughts which is better. I didn’t think turbulence was any more than moderate but hard to tell in a sim. It took a fair but of not-paying-attention to suffer a structual failure even in AS.

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oh, where do we start… too few topics regarding realistic weather, scattered around the forums and the dev Q&A, leaving realism in a broken state, overcasting the future of the sim as being realistic as we hope it will be.
Well, you saw what I did here… after despair, comes humor I guess… nothing much to do. I’ve been tirelessly trying to promote such core topics since FS2020 alpha but it’s really feels that it’s not in the focus nor receiving the thorough attention like other aspects. My only hope is to be surprised in a positive way at somepoint. Thanks to you and everyone who keeps promoting these essential aspects…

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Yeah. “Problem” is that Sebastian claimed in-cloud turbulence had been fixed in 2024, with strong up-/downdrafts (up to 8000ft/m or something) and strong turbulence…blabla…density levels fixed…

So where is it?
An absolute joke to fly an ultra-light through the hardest WX on the planet…
Don’t call it realistic turbulence then. And let those rail pilots who dont like turbulence turn it off.
But at least tune it so those who want realistic turbulence have it! Sooo…tired…of…this…

Sigh…

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Weather avoidance is a crucial part of real aviation, yet MSFS completely ignores this aspect of flight planning and decision-making, which ultimately makes it more of a game than a true simulator.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​ I wish it will change soon.

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Was hoping cloud turbulence might be in the su1 beta, but nope, can fly through the worst clouds as smoothly as butter. Disappointing, was really looking forward to this feature in 2024.

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You will get in cloud turb with ActiveSky, Iam using it all the time.

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Still no update on this? Is it present in SU2? This was a much-heralded feature of pre-launch marketing for 2024, so it’s disappointing to see it so forgotten.

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Haven’t tried SU2. Might do it if it gets a bit more stable :wink:
But doubt there is any difference :frowning:
Barely any cloud turbulence, no 3d radar etc - still a lot of possible improvements…

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I might be hallucinating, but I’m currently on a flight from 72TA to KFDW, and I swear my DA42 experience cloud turbulence! The wings definitely shook entering and exiting the cloud layer. I’m using FSRealistic… is that what’s producing it, or is 2024 now modeling cloud turbulence…?

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I just shot an approach into W29 (DC area) with live weather on SU3 Beta and turbulence was insane. Could not hold attitude in a severe thunderstorm.

Felt very realistic. I don’t think my wings would still be attached (had damage turned off).

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Oh cool, is it in generally now then, not just thunderclouds? (I’m still on SU2)

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SU3 is less stable for me but weather and ATC updates are worth it. Load times are also pretty fast now.

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So, has there been any work on this in SU3 or not?

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Nope.
But they talked a little about it in today’s DevStream. Maybe rework whole WX system blabla…“if it gets voted high enough”.

If you add all the threads about lack of realistic WX its in top 3 I would presume.
Shouln’t just look at votes. WX should be high-pri in any flight sim.
Otherwise we just get votes/improvements for career mode, can’t press X and autoland on my X-box controller etc.

Just my 0,2$

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I agree. WX is a primary component of a flight simulator. Regardless of the number of votes, if there are issues with it, they should be addressed urgently and as soon as the simulator’s main bugs are resolved.

I wrote a similar post in here regarding weather: Please improve cloud turbulence, icing and weather in general

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Implementing wx API is the consistently highest voted issue, hard to see how much more voting is required :laughing:

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Are you surprised by the illusion of democracy? :blush:

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Disappointing to see that this is STILL not fixed in SU3.

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Tbh I don’t think Asobo have the will or means to change wx services or renegotiate the terms to allow 3rd party read access to wx data.

I would love to be proved wrong but if they keep fudging the release of absolutely everything and don’t increase features in the sim I’ma hitch a ride back to X-Plane where they’re developing more realistic wx and terr radar…