Still very long loading time after start flight

WingWarper1 · March 27, 2025, 2:50am

For the 1st time I was also getting the spinning circle in the bottom right corner and the flight out of KJFK would not load. Just a guess but it seems like the sim is trying to establish a server connection…

ToriDadriel · March 27, 2025, 8:08am

So this is 100% a beta issue. Still was unable to load anything this morning. But now I left the beta the very same flight I was trying to load for the last 2 days loads in 30 seconds in the live build without an issue. Without me changing literally anything else.

So I guess I need to stay out of the beta until this is solved, since can’t really test anything without being able to fly

SparkySven · March 27, 2025, 9:22am

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:
Can’t start a flight when selecting inibuild (EGLL) departing a arriving. Will load flight 4 ever but don’t start it.
When I fly to it without flight plan it’s ok but did have a VR crash freeze taking off again using IndiaFoxTecho’s Tornado v1.0.6 and when trying to manually create a flight plan with my PMS50 GTN-750 Premium V2.2.47 it’s listed but can’t select it as active leg.
I have default EGLL disabled.
I also see weird flashing lights at night when flying over it but could be a AMD FSR3.1 / 4 glitch I don’t know.

in Inibuild with HD or SD texture or all complex hangers enable / disabled does not make any difference.
Did you experience this issue before you joined the Beta?
No

ICAO, coordinates, or specific location:
EGLL

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?
Not ppossible because inibuilds EGLL V1.0.2 is needed to use.

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)? Always

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

1.Select GA parking spot on EGLL as departure
2.Select any other aiport as arrival
3.Start flight (will show loading circle splash screen workld map 4 ever).

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What peripherals are you using, if relevant:
Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo + TCA Trustmaster Airbus stick

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it? No

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AMD Ryzen 9 5900X AM4 CPU on X570 MB & Sapphire Nitro+ RX 9070 XT with 32GB RAM on Windows 11 version 23H2 with a HP reverb G2

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xPhoenixDecept · March 27, 2025, 10:39am

I spent some time testing this behaviour this morning. From pressing Start Flight I can sometimes sit for more than 10 minutes with nothing happening, other times it gets to Ready to Fly within a minute or so (which is perfectly normal). I tried hitting Escape back to the Start Flight state and re-trying as well as going further back (staying in Sim). I couldn’t see any particular logic or pattern to this, sometimes it loads reasonably quickly, other times it doesn’t. I have checked for error logs - none. I have also checked in performance monitor, the Sim appears to be doing very little in terms of CPU, disk I/O or network. Whilst I understand other users have seen this behaviour in SU1, I did not so for me it is a regression in SU2 Beta.

TranquilitySea · March 27, 2025, 10:40am

I never had this issue before SU2. With SU1 I could load in seconds to any airport. Now it’s minutes. This is a different issue.

guenseli · March 27, 2025, 12:56pm

Disregard, can be deleted

Rennfrikadelle · March 27, 2025, 1:23pm

It looks like a deadlock issue.

It’s probably been there since the first release, but only started occurring so frequently with the SU2 beta. I experienced this behavior before with one of 100 free flights.
Deleting the WGS folder helped me.
It only ever froze on the first launch of a flight - after an ALT-F4 kill and restart, it worked.

CDTs are the much bigger problem with the SU2 beta.

WaterLattice34 · March 27, 2025, 2:09pm

There are many posts in this forum this started happening with SU1. Granted it’s worse with SU2 but it’s the same issue.

TranquilitySea · March 27, 2025, 2:11pm

As I said, I never had it before SU2 beta.

DrVenkman3876 · March 27, 2025, 2:36pm

It affected quite a few of us during the first week or two after the SU1 Beta started. And contrary to your assertion, for many of us it does NOT occur on the first launch of a flight, but does occur with subsequent launches in the same sim session. Quitting the sim and restarting it allows loading back in, but subsequent loads fall again requiring quitting the sim and restarting again.

As for CTDs, I didn’t encounter any yesterday in rather intense testing of loading into and out of various airports. Taking a cue from several reports scattered around the Beta forum, I removed the FSLTL base traffic models from my Community folder and had zero crashes all evening.

Wdseith · March 27, 2025, 2:43pm

This issue is new to SU2 for me as well. No changes in graphic settings between the release version and SU2. Nothing in my community folder. Same behavior no matter how many times I load the same free flight with the same aircraft at the same airport. Rolling cache is 128 GB.

WingWarper1 · March 27, 2025, 2:53pm

Probably a deadlock as in no server response to start a session to fly your plane. Most likely nothing to do with any files or settings on your PC.

Speedbrake22 · March 27, 2025, 5:09pm

Disclaimer: I know this is a beta and it is our job to find potential issues.

One thing I noticed is that it takes an extremely long time from clicking on Start flight until actually being able to see the plane on the ground. I didn’t have this pre-beta. Is this an issue with this beta or is it just something not working on my PC?

N316TS · March 27, 2025, 5:12pm

Hi, is this your issue?

Speedbrake22 · March 27, 2025, 5:26pm

yep that is the one, thanks!

It will load fine after a while.

Baracus250 · March 27, 2025, 5:51pm

Same here. Did a few flights last night and it loaded fine (very quick). Did one today and it was also fast (but weirdly the zoom in went right down to ground level so I could see like 4 pixels of the terrain, then when it fully loaded the view skated over to my aircraft at that height!).

Then tried a different location and won’t load. Tried a differnet time, different plane, different loacation. Only like 1mbps coming down.

GPU is working 99% for this!!!

Tried the same place it worked a moment ago and now even that does not load - should be in my rolling cache, no?

Now I cannot Quit to Desktop (just hangs). Force quit, reload sim and now stuck on 91% and it says “Loading unusually long. Log saved to report-loading.toml” (attached). Oh it is creeping up to 96%.

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EDIT: totally stuck on 97% after a few reboots and long wait. I am leaving Beta now and hope I can get some flying in with my last bit of spare time before next week

Empire9943 · March 27, 2025, 6:04pm

Same problem here, I tried different aircraft and just hags and loads and loads.

I selected C172 and loaded it into a very basic smell field, and 5 hours later still waiting, still loading in.

How long should I wait for, another 50 hours XD

midcon07 · March 27, 2025, 6:09pm

Not only will the flight not load after several minutes, when I click on ESC it sends me back to the Microsoft Store.

Baracus250 · March 27, 2025, 7:44pm

Oh maaaannn. Came out of beta and its still not loading now

EarthFlight42 · March 27, 2025, 8:44pm

With the original game and SU 1 I luckily never had issues with long loading times after selecting the flight. With SU 2 I regularly have loading times of several minutes (usually cancelled after 15 minutes) but sometimes they are “normal” like 10-20s. It’s not something I can reproduce at any time, but the difference was so noticible that I came here to note it. And I didn’t change any settings I can imagine to cause this difference. (Didn’t change the LOD level for months, which was 160 all the time until now.)