I suspect that quite a few 3rd party aircraft updates and maybe even new aircraft launches will be/have been delayed until the release of SU10.
Disappointing though this is I suppose that it is very understandable. If I was a 3rd party developer I would definitely wait for a final SU10 version before updating or releasing my product.
I guess ‘it is what it is’ and we will just have to be patient. Hopefully, the wait will be worth it and SU10 will be one of the better updates.
The problem on this delays for costumers is, in my opinion, that there was the statement at the devblog of 8th Sept. that release is slated for next week… and then… nothing… not even a word.
and always sayin’ “wait, relax, its done when its done”… thats gonna be like back in time when my parents or grandparents tried to buy a new manufactured car and had to wait up to 15 years for delivery back in former G.D.R.
This is what I do when a new update comes out - bear with me, because it’s complicated, but I haven’t had any issues:
Install the update
Play MSFS
(Yes, seriously - I’m usually too lazy or just forget to rename my Community folder. I also use the addon linker program, and even made an “update” profile with nothing activated, but I have only used that maybe one time. I’ve never had any update issues.)
Same … just like with drivers. Just install the darn thing. Don’t make a voodoo ritual out of it.
The advice to remove/rename the Community folder is just to make sure that IF problems arise (like those freezes during loading with ship traffic a while back, for example) Asobo isn’t immediately blamed if the cause of those issues is actually one of the addons. It’s unnecessary though. I didn’t remove it in all of the 9 previous updates, with 0 issues for the update and the base sim.
P.S.: oh, and guess how many times I reinstalled MSFS since August 2020? Zero, zip, zilch, nada!
Exactly! I feel like Asobo has delivered a lot of broken promises…or simply going radio silence on the communication.
For something like “there will be SU10 next week,” which of course didn’t happen, instead of saying “you will hear from us soon” in the dev update this week, why not write something like…
“We are very sorry that we couldn’t push out SU10 in time this week because we need more time to (…), but please check back early next week for more release info.”
To me this would put a lot of people’s minds at ease.
Asobo/MS communication by far exceeds any that you get from any other programme or game producers (and I mean by far). The facts are that MSFS is a moving target, not every fix will stay fixed and not every pencilled in appointment will be met. We really need to accept that.
I think you should include the depth of the content in that assessment also. Have a look at the competitors development blogs when they talk about flight models, weather generations etc.
I think Asobo could learn a lot from that. A video every now, and again with the devs. is interesting, but a typed blog with more technical detail would be even better. Time, and again we have had a Q&A where the questions have been misinterpreted. Almost as if the question was not anticipated, and they have been put on the spot.
A typed response would allow them to be more thoughtful, and provide an answer with more detail than the short Q&A provides.
Since EVGAs announcement today to not manufacture any GPUs from NVIDIA anymore due to being treated extremely poorly by them, after multiple other corporations reported the same in the past (e.g. Apple cutting ties with NVIDIA), I wonder how much of this delay and lack of communication is on Asobo and MS here.
Considering all that was said about NVIDIA from business partners in the past, it may just be that Asobo themselves are in the dark and are unable to communicate anything with certainty.
This was never said. The statement said it was ‘slated’ for release ‘soon’, ‘in conjunction with a nVidia driver’.
How is it that these statements get lifted out of context so often, which leads to anger and frustration. And then other people react to that frustration, start parroting the incorrect wording, and the ball is rolling again.
Please read the original statement and you’ll see that this was an example of really good communication.
I’m not talking about small time devs with a limited amount of customers. Name just one major software house that operates on the scale of MSFS that are more forthcoming. I’ll wager it shouldn’t be difficult to prove you wrong.
Honestly, I doubt that EVGA ending their partnership with Nvidia is going to affect their partnership with game developers. The part of Nvidia responsible for working with GPU partners is different to the part that sends engineers to work with game studios. What’s more likely is that if Asobo needs a driver update they’ll have to wait for Nvidia to be ready to release it. Nvidia may have had an estimate they ended up not meeting, or there is another game that needs the driver update and they’re testing to release all at once, or they simply have a schedule and Asobo had to wait. Nvidia and EVGA ending their association isn’t going to make Nvidia miss driver schedules or affect their ability to work with game studios.
My guess is that the policy isn’t one of making excuses, but always talk positively from a future perspective.
That’s a policy I think. And I see way to many people on this forum that want MSobo make official excuses to us, the community. To my view they have to keep it the way they do now. Otherwise the many excuses would soon become unbelievable, because there are simply too many variables at play that are even partly out of their hands, and could delay releases.
So I think they communicate well, but that many users want to hear different words. That’s not MSobo’s problem to fix.
I am convinced that CM is communicating everything they know, and that MSobo gives all the information they have at a certain moment.
It even could mean that we will hear very soon that SU10 will be merged with WU11.
Sounds like a big update with lots of variables, I would not be surprised if we don’t see this until early October. I hope SU 10 doesn’t surprise us like SU 5 did
They have no reason to do that on purpose to a game studio partner. It’s more likely the driver just isn’t ready and everyone has to wait, they likely have more than one game that they’re optimising for anyway. As for Nvidia being difficult for board partners to work with, that isn’t a new sentiment, there’s always been talk like that. There was the whole drama about them blacklisting a tech YouTuber because he didn’t focus on their ray tracing performance enough in his reviews. But there’s no real reason for them not to be helpful with a driver for game they have an official relationship with.
@MuTe0794 You’ll still get driver updates, the drivers from the Nvidia website are not brand specific.
What you are quoting was not from the last dev update, but from the 8th. I was quoting their statement after they missed their ‘slate’ and announced more info coming ‘very soon’.
What I said. Their policy of communicating is always toward mentioning the positive about the future, and spend not a lot of energy on looking backward. I can understand that this itches some people, because they want to drag MSobo before the community tribunal and say for once and for all how bad everything is.
I am not that type. I trust everybody is doing their utmost best. And we just have read the news, and the next news, and go with their flow.
Or not, but that path leads toward the aforementioned frustration.