Super low FPS with high end system

Hey guys,

I just upgraded my PC to the following specs and am getting pretty low FPS aT around 30 but at a high resource hungry airport like KSFO it’s around 15. Have lowered settings and disabled addons etc but it’s still pretty poor.
I have graphics settings set to ultra. I don’t have many add ons either as it’s a clean install and windows install.

Specs are:

Gigabyte B650 GAMING X AX V2 AM5 ATX Motherboard
Asus TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition 24GB GDDR6X Graphics Card
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D AM5 8 Cores 16 Threads Processor
64GB DDR5 6000MHz XMP CL36 RAM

What advice would you have for where to look?
GPU temp is around 40 and CPU temp is around 50

What’s your resolution? That sounds pretty normal for this sim. Those temps look good.

1080p, 2K, or 4K? Any render scaling?
How many monitors?
Is your BIOS current? Have you changed any of the default BIOS settings?
Are your chipset drivers current?

Running in 4K with render scaling set to 100

Running in 4K with render scaling set to 100. I have two monitors one being 4K and the other not and not used for the sim.
Have default bios settings, haven’t changed anything.
Drivers and windows all up to date.
Also have triple checked that I haven’t accidentally plugged my monitor into the onboard graphics.

Would my CPU be bottlenecking the sim?

It’s a brand new pc build so fresh install of everything

I just saw it lol. It’s late here, apologies

This you can easily check in the developer mode after enabling the fps counter. It would say limited by main thread

Run your scenario with Developer Mode enabled → Debug → ‘Display FPS’. It will tell you whether you are limited by ‘Main Thread’ (mostly CPU) or by GPU. You want balance so that the frametimes (latency) shown by those two graphs is roughly equal. If they’re way out of balance, you might consider watching this video. It seems to me that you should be getting better performance from that system and getting the CPU and GPU balanced can help. Also, you might find that the video helps you better understand the impact that different settings have.

I mean, something is massively wrong. You literally couldn’t get a better computer for MSFS and so getting 30 fps at best is insane.
The data from the debug tools would indeed be interesting, to see if the CPU or GPU appears to cause the issues.

Have you checked performance in general, outside MSFS? Stuff like CPU benchmarks (single-threaded and multithreaded, like Cinebench) and GPU benchmarks or other GPU heavy games?

Edit: Have you upgraded your BIOS? It’s doubtful it would cause this, but early AM5 BIOSes had massive issues so you really need to be running a somewhat recent version at least.
Also, even more unlikely to cause this (but it might cost you 10-20% performance), but have you enabled XMP or its equivalent? Otherwise you’re not running your RAM at full speed.

Are you absolutely certain that you have installed the chipset driver?

And that last bit by @Aeluwas above is especially good advice, AMD calls it “EXPO” (=Intel XMP) memory profile, and BIOS.

Those low temps are worrying. Undo any power saving settings in Windows & Nvidia control panels, if not that then check that all power connectors are properly seated. Also does unplugging/disabling the 2nd monitor make any difference?

This is the fps when I lower all settings to medium.

Does anything stick out here?

I have run Cinebench and go the following



Can confirm BIOS is up to date and chipset driver also.

Looks ok to me but then I don’t have anything like your hardware.
For a direct comparison with similar rigs install and run Passmark.
Or Userbenchmark but be warned they hate AMD.

Also have lowered all settings to medium and FPS shot up. This is the data. Doesn’t mean much to me unfortunately. Do the items in orange need to be addressed?

I don’t see the aircraft listed. If you’re running Ultra everything at a difficult airport like KSFO, in a complex and demanding plane, then I’m sorry to say that the sim’s base code will probably give you less than desirable results.

When posting results, make sure you eliminate variables. Use the same aircraft at the same location, and change one thing at a time. Stop using the default ‘Ultra’ or ‘Medium’ templates. You need to tune the graphics settings to YOUR system.

For reference, parked at Sedona in my Cabri G2, I get around 56 FPS average and 15ms latency on both Main Thread and GPU. Clouds Ultra, Traffic minimal, Rain preset, Buildings, grass and trees Medium.

5800X3D
3090 Ti using nVidia 556.12 driver.
64GB DDR4-3600/CAS14, with XMP-2 enabled.
4K HDR on primary monitor, 2K on secondary, no render scaling.
Ultimate Power Plan

I’d be happy to test with the aircraft you’re using (assuming I own it,) at the location and conditions you’re using for comparison. When I do I’ll share my graphics settings.

Or, download the free Cabri and duplicate my test.

Also, try this great little tool:

CapFrameX

Here’s a screenshot of my result. Note the settings at the bottom.

Download and install Cinebench R23
Open C23 and click File > advanced benchmark
A drop-down menu will pop up on the left side labeled Minimum Test Duration. From that menu select off then start multi core and single core test.

It’s way more interesting to look at the stats when the low fps happens :slight_smile: