TCA Quadrant Airbus Edition idle at 90% in A320neo

[alstrshw]

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:
When calibrating the TCA Quadrant Airbus Edition in the A320neo EFB, the % registered when the throttles are at idle is 90%. The climb detent is at 96%. The equivalent position in the Thrustmaster Control Panel app is 50%. Making changes to the sensitivity curves in MSFS2024 does nothing. There are no other axes or buttons assigned to any throttle commands.

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?
Yes, none are installed.

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?
Every time

REPRODUCTION STEPS

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1. Loaded the A320neo at LEMD
2. Went to ‘Open throttle settings’ on the EFB
3. Tried adjusting the sensitivity curves through the Control menu.

YOUR SETTINGS

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What peripherals are currently plugged in? Please name all of them as there could be a potential conflict.

Thrustmaster TCA Sidestick Airbus Edition
Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant Airbus Edition

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?
No

[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?
Nvidia RTX4070

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7800x3d
32gb RAM
2TB m2 hard drive
150Mbps full fibre internet

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[dxtr]

Can you go to the control settings and check the curves of the thrust lever axis? Set it to default / everything to 0 and try again.

[alstrshw]

Hi - I have done and it makes no difference. Nothing in the control settings page makes any difference - none of the sensitivity settings change anything.

[Greyu1921]

I’m experiencing the same issue. The throttle is extremely sensitive, and adjusting the sensitivity settings doesn’t seem to help. It’s especially difficult to control the throttle when flying general aviation aircraft, as even small movements result in large power changes.

[Mithrin126]

I am having similar issues with adjusting the power settings for this bit of hardware.

I am noticing inconsistancies. For a few days I was using custom curve sensitivity settings that seemed to work great while flying the Cessna Caravan.
Now yesterday all of a sudden the throttle response was way off and I went into reverse by going fully idle. I checked the curvature, nothing changed.
Today I unbound the controls and reset it back to my initial manual sensitivity values but now these aren’t good at all. Throttle lever at iddle still sees me with a bit of power and when trying to tweak that out with the deadzone results in a much more unstable powering up curve…so basically I would have to go through a good hour of finding the ‘right’ new curvature settings and then it could still end up being reset by something.

I also don’t really get reverse thrust to work the way it should by using that lower part of the throttle slider…it doesn’t accept it as a unique setting/axis right now or I somehow can’t figure out how to tweak it well enough to engage it.

So in other words, it’s all unrefined and too much of a mystery as to why things work the way they should work. Would love to see this improved.

[alstrshw]

So, I seem to have solved this for the the A320neo and A321neo default aircraft, and the Fenix 319/20/21 by changing the throttle axis assignment from Throttle Axis 1 (0 to 100%) to Throttle Axis 1.

Suddenly the calibration works exactly as expected for all of these aircraft.

I’m not sure why it had defaulted to the 0 to 100% axis (I seem to remember this was needed in 2020, at least for the Fenix?), but it seems that Just Throttle 1 and Throttle 2 are the correct bindings.

Hope this helps others?

[ArthurEdge]

I have the Airbus TCA Quadrant too.

Through comparison with FS2020, seems like this:

1. Simple throttle axis (Throttle 1 axis) binding works if you need a simple curve that doesn’t account for the neutral in the middle by default, in other words, it doesn’t have a negative part.
   This works well with aircraft that have a throttle calibration, because you can then decide what will be the “virtual” idle, and the part of the curve below will be considered negative. It also works for GA aircraft without reverse, as you can free the physical idle detent on the quadrant to use all the lever movement as forward throttle.

2. Throttle axis (0 - 100%) should provide a curve where the neutral point is accounted for by default, and the part of the curve below should be read by the simulator as negative or “reverse”. This is for default aircraft with reversers, that don’t have built-in throttle calibration. You should adjust the neutral point (in controls → TA320 Quadrant → hardware settings) so that, when physical levers are in idle detend, the throttle levers in your aircraft are also in idle.

Now, the bug is: FS2024 doesn’t read the negative part of the movement with Throttle axis (0 - 100%), so, even if you manage to adjust the neutral point (hard to do since the dot doesn’t move with throttle in the hardware settings), you are stuck without reverse in default aircraft as the 737 MAX.
Moreover, I can confirm that adjusting sensitivity has no effect at all on response curve.

[MimikriX]

Anybody successful in using the TCA Airbus Stick and Quadrant in FS2024? In the configuration I only have the stick but not the Quadrant… two “mouse” though… I’m on XBox X.

Update:
Really nobody out there with the TCA Airbus stick&quadrant setup?

[ArthurEdge]

I’m on PC, so I don’t know if what I have found is the same on XBOX. Anyway.. I hope I can help someone.
After the first patch, the reverse part of the axis seems to be working, if you use Throttle axis (0 - 100%). There is still an issue on the default profile: if you modify any hardware setting on it, it is simply ignored. So what I ended doing is: 1. Duplicate default TCA Quadrant profile for planes, and assign a name of your choice. 2. Change hardware settings as follow: move neutral to 0.4 (fine tune this for your specific throttle), and increase dead zone to 0.05. Do it for axis JOISTICK LAXIS X and JOYSTICK LAXIS Y. 3. Save and back.
You should now have a nice linear response in the throttle, be able to reverse with the reverse part of the axis, and have the neutral correctly placed in the idle detent.
For aircraft that have an integrated throttle calibration (like Inibuilds ones) you can follow the same procedure but be sure to re-calibrate detents in their EFBs.

[ArthurEdge]

[SeedyL3205]

Thank you for the bug report.

We have created an internal ticket to see if our team already has this logged, and if not they will attempt to reproduce the issue and create a new bug report. This item is now marked as feedback-logged. If there is an existing bug report or one is created, we will move this thread to bug-logged.

[DeadpanSoup8730]

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
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• I also have this issue, on top of that the reverse thrust axis will not work.

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[StandFreeAndy]

Did a few GA flights last night, and i now reckon my dexterity is on par with a watch maker. Controlling helis thrust is like doing brain surgery.

[X3n0n720]

From my experience, if you are at 90% and in the idle position, then you need to invert the axis in the binding setting (the little cog wheel in front of the axis binding).

From my side, everything works very well with ini Airbuses and Fenix.
(I didn’t configure anything to control de default boeing planes so this might be specific for airbuses with EFB).

Then when inverted, throttle calibration in the EFB of iniBuild planes should be OK.