Thank You, Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 Team!

I’ve been playing the Xbox version every day since the release and the PC version of the sim since 2023. Flight Simulator has always been a rollercoaster of problems for me. But I still accepted having to restart a simple GA flight two or three times in order to be able to complete the flight normally. In MSFS 2020, at least a few months/year after the release, I had a bunch of CTDs with breathtaking visual scenery. At the time, it was worth it to me. But today in 2024 a bunch of ridiculous errors in the menu and flight planning and ctd, right down to the extremely blurry graphics, give me the impression that MSFS 2024 has simply become a victim of our modern times.

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What type of System - PC, CPU intel i9 9900k 3.60 GHz, RAM 32 GB, GPU Nvidia RTX 2810 Ti

What type(s) of controller do you use? Keyboard only!

For Career mode -

Companies: Flightseeing + Cargo in Cessna 172 G1000 (not yet enough credits for bigger planes)

Other missions: all kinds of planes
Challenge league

What Types of flight do you do: VFR/IFR both

If PC, what is in your community folder: nothing

If PC, what external utilities do you use: None

Anything else that could possibly help identify why some people have a wonderful experience and others have a terrible experience

Career mode makes me come back to 2024. While enjoying free flight and challenge league, they ring a bit hollow. Flying on a knife edge, crash, crash, crash until you make the ranks is a nice adrenaline rush but it’s not flying.

Flying is about eliminating risks. You make a mistake, you die. The brutal penalties in career mode really hurt but they have made me a better pilot. And a better simmer: you learn to work around Asobo bugs/crashes, which are plenty but ultimately predictable and avoidable

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This is meant to be a respectful question. I’ve not used it but I see Neofly as a free career mode thats been available for 2020 but without the wonky issues and with filtering (something that others say is missing).

If the Neofly career is indeed better, what does 2024 career mode offer above Neofly?

I completely agree with your idea, and I think a collaborative thread for visual comparisons between MSFS 2020 and MSFS 2024 would be fantastic!

For a shorter route to keep things manageable, I’d suggest Albuquerque (KABQ) to Aspen (KASE). It’s approximately 251 nautical miles, and with the Cirrus G2 Vision Jet, the flight would take around 48 minutes.

I know the G2 isn’t available in MSFS 2020, but for comparison purposes, you could use the TBM 930. It has a similar interface and avionics, so it could still give a good basis for comparing the visuals and overall flight experience.

The approach into Aspen is always visually interesting, and this route could be a great way to highlight the differences in terrain, textures, and overall visuals between the two sims without being too time-consuming.

Let me know what you think, and I’d be happy to contribute!

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It is as an add-on in its original FFX version, which is also available in 24 if one owned it in 2020. Actually a very good comparator across versions as they fly the same with some minor differences in accessories, EFB vs VAMS, and how flight plans get into the Garmin, etc.

One thing I would say is that it is part of the main sim and does not cost extra. I was just checking and it costs 50 bucks to have all the stuff they are offering.

I don’t think they need to be pitted against each other, though. Obviously Neofly is more fleshed out, but sim’s own career mode can very well act as a stepping stone for many to go and get Neofly (I actually got interested now, with 2020 I was never interested in career mode). This is in the end an ecosystem and a platform where exactly this kind of things are thriving.

Don’t care much about the career/tycoon/manager aspect. There are better games for that.

From what I’ve seen on videos, Neofly is not well integrated and looks like a complicated distraction from the actual flying (or preflight).

In MSFS, it’s as easy, if not easier, to start a mission as it is to start a free flight. And getting judged on your flight performance. And the bad weather makes it more challenging and interesting.

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MSFS 2024 Career Mode vs NeoFly

Both MSFS 2024 Career Mode and NeoFly offer immersive career experiences with many similar features, but there are key differences:

  • Integration: Career Mode is fully integrated into MSFS 2024, requiring no external setup, while NeoFly is a standalone app that must be installed and configured.
  • Progression: Career Mode has a structured progression system starting with a Private Pilot License (PPL), leading to advanced specializations like firefighting, VIP transport, and rescue missions. NeoFly focuses on earning money and experience to unlock new aircraft and missions but lacks elements like insurance or maintenance management.
  • Mission Variety: Both offer a range of missions, including passenger, cargo, and rescue operations. Career Mode dynamically adapts missions based on real-time weather and events, while NeoFly includes additional “gamified” missions like bounty hunting.
  • Accessibility: Career Mode is built into MSFS 2024, making it seamless for all players, whereas NeoFly is a great free option, especially for MSFS 2020 users.

In summary, MSFS 2024 Career Mode consolidates many features found in NeoFly, with added realism and a more immersive experience, thanks to its native integration. NeoFly remains an excellent alternative for players looking for customization or still flying on MSFS 2020.

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Well said. MSFS is an amazing offering. I look forward to its continued growth.

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This post looks like it was paid for by Asobo and made with AI.

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Hi there,

I can assure you, I’m just a fan of the game who loves sharing my experiences and helping the community. I do use AI to help me write clear and concise posts because English isn’t my first language, and I want to make sure my comments are easy to understand.

I’m not paid by Asobo or anyone else—I’m simply passionate about the sim, and with over 600 hours of gameplay, I’ve gained a lot of experience that I want to share with others. I know many in the community are frustrated, and I’m here to provide constructive feedback and solutions where I can.

If you check my other comments on the forum, you’ll see I’m just trying to help out and contribute positively to the discussions.

Thanks for understanding, and I’m always happy to help however I can! :blush:

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I completely agree with your OP, though I’m not exactly under the illusion that getting a PPL is something that’s ever going to be affordable for me. Once I got FS20 working properly I thought it was amazing, but the new visuals in FS24 have kept me out of FS20 and in FS24 for an absurd amount of time, happily flying different airplanes and loving the visuals. There are some tricks that I’ve used to get butter smooth performance and astonishing visuals that are superior to the max I was able to get in 2020.

Now some have asked what magic some of us are doing. Well, it’s not magic. This isn’t necessarily a support thread, though. I will say that I’m running Intel Core i7 12700K, 32GB DDR5 RAM, RTX 3050 (ASUS Phoenix single fan), 1080 resolution, NVME installation drive, Lossless Scaling app, DynamicLOD from ResetXpndr, allowing me to have the TLOD gradually increase to 400 as I get higher altitude.

I am aware that there are bugs and things, and there are some that are annoying and can even break immersion, but those are all overshadowed by the overall performance and appearance. The best thing about it is I don’t have to argue with it when I want to use it.

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I completely agree with you about FS24’s visuals—they’ve kept me from going back to FS20 as well! The improvements in performance and appearance are truly impressive.

One thing I think doesn’t get mentioned enough in discussions about performance is having a good internet connection. Since so much of the sim relies on streaming data, this can make a huge difference. Personally, I have a 500 Mbps connection, and I wonder if connection speed might be a factor for those experiencing issues.

It would be interesting to hear what connection speeds others are working with, especially those who are struggling with performance. Maybe it’s a piece of the puzzle we’re overlooking.

Thanks for sharing your experience! :blush:

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Ultimately, MSFS2024 might be worthy of expressions of gratitude when it becomes a viable release candidate. In its current state, I cannot be grateful, having paid £200 for something best described as in early access, or an alpha.

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No problem. But if you want to improve your English, write things yourself; it will look more genuine.

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Hi there, I currently have a very slow internet connection of around 18Mbps connection and a low bandwidth connection but both run great for my MSFS 2024..

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I never claimed to want to improve my English. My main goal is simply to help the community as much as I can. Using AI allows me to communicate more clearly and effectively, especially since English isn’t my first language.

I’m just here to share my experience and provide helpful information to those who need it. :blush:

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Hi there,

It’s interesting that your connection works well for MSFS 2024 despite being 18 Mbps. There must be some explanation for the differences, as many people describe issues that make it feel like we’re not even playing the same game.

Perhaps it’s related to connection stability or other factors beyond speed. It would be great to figure out what’s causing these varied experiences! :blush:

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It looks weird man, even your responses.

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Hi everyone,

I haven’t had much time these past few days, but I’ll post the video for the MSFS 2020 comparison as soon as possible.

Thanks for your patience!