The video is now available! Please excuse my approach and landing—it was my first time flying into Aspen.
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Yes, that was FS2000. We are all hoping that 2024 will eventually be an even better sim - right now it is not, except for the scenery and then only if you have a higher end system for the frame rate.
I have to set my FS2024 Graphics settings to minimums to obtain a barely usable Frame Rate of 18 to 24 on a good day. With this I’m getting less realisim in the scenery of FS2024 than I can get anytime I want, in FS2020. And in some cases I can only get 10 FPS with all graphics set to minimums. FS2020 frame rates are high enough that I never have to even think about it. Besides, the scenery and wildlife, etc. of some FS2020 add-ons just blows away anything I’ve seen in FS2024.
According to developer mode debug in FS2024, I’m limited by my RTX3050 GPU. The PC is a Lenovo “gaming laptop” that worked great for FS2020, driving two 4K monitors, and was not cheap. But now I am resigned to spending several more thousand bucks for a high-end system before I can enjoy FS2024.
Thanks Califlier.
Your laptop with the RTX 3000 series is about the minimum specification required for MSFS2020.
To quote you "and was not cheap’.
This reinforces my opinion MSFS is an ‘Elitist’ hobby.
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This is where I stopped reading.
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Says it all.
See:
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But as it was previously mentioned, those numbers are not public, which forces us to “trust” on those numbers (and unfortunately, Steam numbers are public, and they indicate otherwise).
Also they don’t really tell what it means by users (for example, I open 2020, and 2024, but I open 2020 to actually make a flight, while 2024 generally to find a bug, or just punish myself). The same goes for their level of satisfaction with the sim. For example, I’ve been flying several hours, both VFR getting angry on the blurry textures, or trying to do a succesful IFR flighjt that doesn’t leave me with a bitter taste (so far I wasn’t able to correctly made a complete airliner travel without having some kinda of mishap, either from ATC, the airplane, the flightplan, blurry or not loading textures, CTDs… last one was a CTD, I went for coffee and came back and found the sim had crashed).
Would be nice to have public statistics. But hey I’m willing to trade that for a sim that offers at least the same as 2020 with improved graphics. And give missions as an activity option instead of restricting them to career mode (which isn’t an actual career as a pilot, is like running some kind of company). The loading video infuriates me, as nothing of that is available unless you spend an unnecessary amount of hours, which I guess everyone who has kids, a street job or anything like that, can’t do.
I respect your view, but I don’t accept it all. MSFS is just a game, and I play it perfectly satisfactorily with a computer fitted with obsolescent parts using a cheap joystick. I must admit though that MSFS is a demanding game and no laptop would be my first choice to use with it.
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I hate the “latest” trend of using steam numbers to deem a game being a success or failure, precisely because you end up comparing games that are exclusively on Steam vs games that are available on many other platforms + different audiences, etc. . Same as MMOs were being deemed a failure when they “only” had 2 mil subscribers while WoW had 10 milion. The gaming community keeps using arbitrary metrics and double standards to judge one game vs another.
However, based on the feedback in this forums, the fact that both FS2020 and '24 are available on the same stores, and in the absence of official numbers being released by the dev team, we can absolutely infer that in the big scheme of things, whoever actively plays FS2020 and buys 2024, will play on the same platform as they had before. So I think we can trust that more people are playing 2020 for now until 2024 gets fixed and the steam stats are a satisfactory indication of the ratio between the two.
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It is not an elitist hobby. It is a hobby just like any other. I was learning to fly in real life, then something happened that took away my capability to continue.
Is that elitst? Nope, I made allsorts of sacrifices to allow me to fly. Ultimately, I could no longer continue because of unforseen circumstsnces.
I signed up to DCS. It was the only way to recreate my passion for flight in any sort of satsfactory way. I found my PC needing updating and ultimately throwing on the trash heap regularly to keep up with the ever growing technology.
So no, it is not elitist, I am far from being a millionaire. Most days you will find a grubby, individual up to his armpits in axle grease. Yet I have the equipment to run FS2024 quite well because I make sacrifices in other aspects of my life to do so.
I cannot remember the last time I went on a evening out, even more so, god forbid, eat in a restaurant. Yet I have a high end machine cspable of running 2024 pretty well.
So no, it is not elitist. Just a matter of what aspect of your life you are prepared to sacrifice for a good experience.
Enjoy nights out in a £100 per meal restaurant? That is good, enjoy it. If that means you cannot afford the hardware to enjoy 2024 at its best, you made your commitment, your lifestyle choice.
To label those who choose not to spend £100 on a 45 minute meal in a restaurant, but spend the money instead on making 2024 the best experience possible as “elitist” is beyond the pale.
It is not elitism, it is called commitment.
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