The "Big" announcement revealed - Flight Sim Association

Utter waste of money and literally the worst idea to come out of flight simulation.

When stuff ain’t selling, offer discounts!:stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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But grab some more from’em at the same time :). Pathetic scam.

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Isn’t this site just offering the same as youtube and waiting for a sale?

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What does FBW have to do with FSA? They are not mentioned in the front page?
“FSA is provided by the organizers of FlightSimExpo, North America’s largest enthusiast flight simulation conference.”

Edit: sorry if im confusing this with something else. I just saw a thread from the FBW guys over at avsim letting us know to expect “something big”. I just associated this topic with that thread.

They intentionally said “something bigger” meaning the A380

The best thing about it is, you don’t have to join it if you don’t want to.

This would be very unlikely to happen. Both LM and LR are busy developing their own products and simply abandoning this development to develop a new sim would be basically a waste of money and effort. Especially for LR who is working on X-Plane 12.

FSA is making money from discounts that are usually free, profitting from something that VA’s/communities have worked hard to offer for free over the years. From what I see from discussions this morning, the community is not impressed and even more disappointed with the developers involved. The learning guides are a great idea, charging for discounts not so much.

This seems like an answer to a question nobody asked.

Actually if you stand back and look at what training is included within MSFS it is pretty poor, no its very poor.

A newbie should be able to follow what is a PPL syllabus within the SIM via exercises they fly.

Something like what was included in earlier versions.

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Check out the official flying lessons on the official Twitch channel and the corresponding thread with material:

Honestly, it’s far better than what any sim had in that regard. It’s just not “complete” yet, you can follow along every week. All for free.

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They gotta be kidding. Just what I need. Another recurring payment.

Have you watched the Q&A at all, and read the actual announcements?

WorkingTitle is joining the team and will bring their enhancements and expertise into the base sim which IS a very big announcement, not the thing you’re going on about

Thats of no use

I hope they are able to continue to publish their work via Git. It would be a shame to see it all locked away behind an MS/Asobo legal agreement.

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I might be a slightly unpopular opinion but applying some pressure on Microsoft/Asobo is probably the best they can do, especially after the last patches made MSFS more worse than I could ever imagine for a software product worth 120 Euro.

This thing is actually nothing more than an very early staged Alpha version and what Asobo/MS has to do is raising the quality of the product as soon as possible.

I don’t think their function is to provide any “pressure” on Asobo. Also, while there certainly ARE issues and Asobo is well aware of them, I don’t think the updates made it “worse than I can ever imagine”. That’s very dramatic. Have you watched yesterday’s Q&A? I think the gentlemen from Asobo are very in tune with what is needed. The scope of the project is gigantic. The fact that they are very open about development unlike Lockheed Martin or Laminar Research is a breath of fresh air.

Back on topic, FSA may be dead on arrival. Yesterday they posted on FB saying the launch didn’t go well and are looking for suggestions on what to do including an option of pulling the plug completely. It was an ill-advised launch.

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The concept kinda feels very similar to the $10 guide someone brought out back in August that was literally screenshots of MSFS menus and in game help text.

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Yeah, thats how money is made nowadays. Just talk about it - don´t deliver.

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