The broken CJ4

Today i have tested the Cj4 and a lot is broken …

Do you have any add-ons in your Community folder? If yes, please remove and retest before posting.
No
Are you using Developer Mode or made changes in it?
No
Brief description of the issue:
The plane itself : the CJ4 can’t get any higher as FL250 on full power , N2 = 100,8% fuel = 50%
altitude set to FL300 , FMC on at 260Kn , i have to set vs with positive climb to get it above FL250…
at FL300 it stuggles to stay at speed with full power.
The FMS , only thing you can do is set pos , then route button does nothing.
When flying route , ATC does a good job with some altitude bugs in the atc here and there. But the problem is that the legs page is frozen, while i 've flown 2 pages worth of waypoints , none of the entries go away. see picture…
when you program the destination runway the route is added to the legs page , but since it’s frozen from the start , you can’t move , next waypoint to the top. aka plane lost waypoint list and now starts to circle.

After a good cup of coffee , ^ this is all due to the fact that i can not get to where the exec button can be pressed to activate the flightplan. conclusion the FMC is broken and need to be fixed. and again the correct config files for the cj4 need to be uploaded.

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Detail steps to reproduce the issue encountered:

every flight so far.

PC specs for those who want to assist (if not entered in your profile)
not needed these are software bugs and wrong config files for planes

Build Version # when you first started experiencing this issue:
SU5 + hotfix
Are you on the Steam or Microsoft Store version?
Store
Did you submit this to Zendesk? If so, what is your ticket #?
not yet.

The FMS in the CJ4 is still broken after hotfix-2. can not get past pos init on the FMS.

I’ve only just come back to the sim after some time away and I’m also having this problem. I can’t add Ref Airport into Pos Init, just keeps saying…Not In Database.
This in the Cessna CJ4 stock.

If you’re all using stock, it’s never going to work right.

You need the Working Title CJ4 Mod that fixes the FMS.

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Yeah I would really like the working title but I’m on Xbox X unfortunately…

This is a new problem though as I’ve flown the stock Cessna Citation a lot in the past without issue. I’ve been away the last couple of months and something must have changed through an update.

Must say the sim is looking better than ever though!
Had a great couple of flights in the Beachcraft Bonanza and Kingair last night and really enjoyed it so good to be back : )

the fmc used to kinda work in the stock CJ4 , it’s been broken during one of the many updates. and now xbox users run into this problem which can’t be fixed with a ‘mod’.

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SU8 , The FMS in the CJ4 is still broken. settting up the FMS for a planned route is not possible because the Route button does nothing and so the exec button will never light up.

When is this gonna be fixed ?

Maybe you could put the CJ4 Files from SU4 or SU3 back so that we have a functioning FMS again.

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Not sure what this “route button” is you are talking about, but I did two flights in the CJ$ since SU8 and the FMS works fine. Input origin /arrival/waypoints. then input SID and STAR and it all works well.
Often after the SID is a discontinuity in the plan and you have to chose “direct to” next waypoint and “execute” all works well.
are you using the WT mod?

I don’t doubt that, but the problem is we are told to use stock each and every time there is an update to the sim. I do not use many addons because I do not want to troubleshoot whether the problem is in the sim or in the addon.

Well, out of all the “mods,” the Working Title is the least problematic given they are first party to MS just like Asobo.

Unlike other Mod makers, they can deliver updates following a major sim release because of their proximity to MS.

Case in point, .12.12 for the CJ4 is released yesterday and is specifically for SU8.

Microsoft Flight Simulator Screenshot 2022.03.02 - 09.01.25.39 (2)_LI

Step 2 of programming the FMS , only thing possible is doing the POS INIT.

this button did work in Release , SU1 , SU2 , SU3 and SU4 after that it got broken,
that’s why i keep on posting about it so that it can be fixed.
it would have been a different story if it never worked.

i used to have Mod’s, but due to bad updates where i had to uninstall mods to get it working, i decided to have no mod’s just stock MSFS.

ok, sounds good.
After pos init I click the FPLN button and enter the departure/arrival/waypoints etc

I strongly suggest you use the WT. It works well
Good luck

Well I can share in your misery as both business jets seem not worth Asobo’s time. And both jets must use mods to get any use out of them. Sad.

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that aircaft needs the mod, as does the a320…
what ius the problem just updating a few mods after an update??

The CJ4 with the WT Mod is an excellent , functional aircraft. It does take some time and effort to understand. Here are two things that helped me enormously:

MSFS 2020 | TUTORIAL: How to fly the Working Title Cessna Citation CJ4 | Complete Lesson - YouTube
I am sure there are many more good tutorials out there, but I found these two,
Happy flying

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If you use the WT mod for the CJ4, you don’t really need another plane :-). Excellent functionality in almost all aspects of IFR flying (holdings including entry procedures, VNAV, individual waypoints, directs, RNP approaches, performance calculations, import of Simbrief flight plans and IFR terminal charts from Simbrief on the cockpit screen etc.).
And because the CJ4 only needs short runways, you have a huge choice of aiports. What more could you want?
(And for heavy metal there is the A320 and soon the PMDG 737, which I am also waiting for ;-)).

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Poor dude is on a Xbox asking for a fix and everyone keeps telling him. Bro just get WT CJ4 mod.

Guy’s I’m on Xbox!!

Right so you need to get the mod.

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Well, the Topic Author of this bug report is on PC, it’s both the report and the Tags section.

The short answer for XBox users is to wait until CJ4 mod is available on Marketplace just like NXi is available today to both platforms.

i do not own a xbox but yeah xbox users would benefit from the fix too… it has been broken by Asobo and i want it fixed without using any mod. i payed for a working plane, not a plane that needs a mod to get it fixed , that’s Asobo’s work… only reason i would use a mod is to add extra features. the sim should be able to function without a mod coz that what i payed them for.

it used to work and now it doesn’t…

it’s like buying a ferrari from Asobo and 4 updates later the wheel get square and people start moaning about , yeah install a mod to make the wheels round again… No Asobo should fix their mistake…

Working Title are partners with Asobo. Eventually, the fix from Asobo that you are looking for is going to be the WT CJ4 mod. From what I have read, it will eventually replace the default CJ4. So, instead of complaining about it, it would be in your best interest to download and use the WT CJ4 mod.