The most frustrating experience

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:
I am finding 2024 incredibly frustrating
Setup flight adding 20 waypoints through the Alps.
Before I fly I changed to use a parking spot instead of runway.
All my waypoints disappear as it recalculated the route, why?
10 minutes later, I have readded all waypoints and I try to land on a different runway to align with my route better.
ALL WAYPOINTS DISAPPEAR AGAIN.
I then add all the points a 3rd time and when I click in the EFB send route to avionics, the flight just started but not from the ground in the middle of the route somewhere at 15k feet! Totally bizarre.
I exit and start again for the 4th time, getting it all right, phew.
I start the flight and realise my bindings from the other aircraft have not “come across” despite selecting apply to all aircraft previously. But maybe I don’t understand all the combinations as its so poorly explained, Game Controls profile, Plane Controls profile, duplicating a profile, honestly you need a degree in Asobo logic to bind your controls that I spent 2 years perfecting in 2020.
I start trying to reapply my buttons, but somehow Escape got unbound (I 100% did not unbind this) from Toggle Pause Sim and the other one whatever its called.

I am now stuck, yes , stuck with a paused sim and no menu. I have tried every possible combination of keys to bring up the menu or unpause and nothing works. Escape should not be unbindable from bring up menu, but anyway this whole sim is a hot mess, I understand Asobo trying to push things forward and should be commended but its an absolute pain in the neck to really use daily, and yes as if to troll me the non alphabetical suggested Departures are still there, and oh look I am in a Cesna but the top suggested Arrival airport is 5000km away!

Oh an zooming in on the EFB when its in a window zooms the view in the cockpit too, just another minor bug I encountered on this failed flight today.

I am going back to 2020 until we hear these 1000s of bugs have been ironed out. Please pay some beta testers, stop asking paying customers to spend their time helping you beta test broken software!

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue? Yes

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

Always

REPRODUCTION STEPS

See description

YOUR SETTINGS

Unrelated

What peripherals are you using, if relevant: A Tobii Eye Tracker that doesnt work with 2024.

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So I had ALT-F4 and upon restarting it seems the keys were not unbound, I somehow got into a state where this did not work, potentially a bug, but I have no idea how it happened.

Essentially the game was in Active Pause, with the engine still running but unable to bring up the menu with the Escape key or unpause. I will test again and see if I can repro.

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This is not right! It should not be this difficult to use MS 2024. Clearly the keyboard keybindings for 2024 are different than 2020. (Why?) There is no explanation or information about these changes until we are up in the air.

Maybe Asobo should have decoupled completely 2024 from 2020. Instead of vague words about compatibility, they should have said “Forget everything you know or use in 2020 because 2024 is different. Keybindings are different. World Map is different. Flight plans are different. The MS A320 is missing, just use v2 instead as it is the same. AI Copilot, VFR Map, and other 2020 features are not available in 2024. Marketplace isn’t available for now. Many 3rd party developed products aren’t available (and may never be). Don’t expect the 2020 graphic settings work the same in 2024.”

Yes, two different flight simulators.

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I do like to keep it on the positive side but I am sorry, Microsoft straight out lied to us about compatibility and performance. I cant even get a aircraft livery to show, i have 5 installed and only one shows no rime or reason. Even have them enabled in Market place. This should not have been launched. If I get near a big airport I go from 30 or so frames to like 5, useless. They really screwed people over on this one. If the want to do something for us how about telling us how and when they are going to fix basic stuff. Seems they are on to caring about the Xbox experience and selling liveries that you can dowload for free. Not sure how this will play out but I see some good things here and there but the errors and faults overshadow what could be there , that and the poor performance from 5000.00 gaming computers. Only time will tell , heading back to 2020 for now and it appears a few developers have figured out that its going to be a while until we get even 20% of what was promised.

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Barely able to fly. So many problems. From key bindings to being overtaken on the runway by another plane and then merging with me. I hope all this gets solved within the next few weeks/months or I have wasted $129.00. I went back to FS2020 for the present time - at least I can do some flying.

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The User Interface is indeed a totally catastrophic experience and I fight a battle to keep me motivated. I’m relatively new to flight simming, started in 2023 with MSFS2020 and while in 2020 the UI was seriously bad in 2024 it’s a hot mess.

I have been a private pilot for two decades like many others in the MSFS world and I think we can all agree that the sim itself is a gem of art but fighting the User Interface nearly ruins the enjoyment and certainly has stopped several of my attempts to get “in the air”. It’s winter though, real flying is going slow so we have time but I can only hope that Asobo will rework what they did here. An intuitive and simple user interface cant be that hard to make. I have seen videos of Prepar3d and XPlane, they can do it, too. I have no idea what the devs thought when they designed this UI though.

The absolutely worst thing is the controls assignments. I have bought Axis and Oh’s for the last sim and also use it in MSFS2024 but deleting the controls in MSFS2024 isn’t that easy, after all. You delete bindings, apply for all, set default, etc, even select the new “none” profile, but it just doesn’t mean “none”. There are still axes working, the hat button of my yoke is still assigned although I use TrackIR.

Untested, thrown out to us to complain about. A real pity and a really bad picture for the developer(s).

Unfortunately this became more of a rant than I wanted to, all above being new to a forum just to moan is not what I was hoping for. But it’s frustrating. I fight a flight sim that was actually supposed to be fun, the PR was full of false promises. I hope it will get better “soon”. I try to be patient.