I have been using the throttle quadrant for the last few weeks and loving it. Sorry in advance for not using proper terms, im a pleb. With the Fenix, when i turn the ignition knob on the physical quadrant to ign/start, the in game knob switch clicks back and forth from the “norm mode” (default) to the “ign/ start” setting with out me moving that knob switch on the physical quadrant. I thought the default binds would be sufficient but perhaps the binds is what causing this? It sometimes causes a failure to start the engines with warnings but typically ends up starting after a few tries. Anyone else have this issue or know how to fix this? Thank you all!
Yeah, it’s a common one from the latest update. The solution is to go to your Control bindings, and look for the Set Engine Mode NORM commands. I don’t have MSFS in front of me, so the name might slightly different if I don’t remember it correctly.
All you need to do is flip the control that’s bound to that NORM. Place the button command from the left, and place it to the right column. And same thing with the other one, the button bound on the right column, move it to the left column.
Make sure you check that the command is “ON RELEASE” don’t let it stay on “ON PRESS”. Once you flip the button bindings between the two column with each other. It should solve your problem with the IGN/START switch.
The drawback here is, the problem will now happen on the CRANK command. So it’s more of a workaround, and as long as you rarely use CRANK mode, you should be fine.
SET ENGINE IGN/START MODE should be assigned to button 8 on click
SET ENGINE CRANK MODE should be assigned to button 7 on click
SET ENGINE NORM MODE should be set to both button 7 and button 8, but it must be on release
The above works for me, but apparently there’s a mis-handling of the binding in the Fenix, which means that (for example) if the right mouse button is clicked while the switch is in the IGN/START position the sim will momentarily flip between NORM and IGN/START. We can only hope that this will be fixed by them soon, as the FBW doesn’t suffer from this problem.
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thank you very much for this, ill give this a try after work today. sorry for the late reply.
Try to make it SET ENGINE NORM MODE should be set to both button 8 and button 7, on release in that order. The Button 8 on the left column, Button 7 on the right column.
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I don’t think that matters at all. The CRANK and IGN/START positions of the three way switch are implemented as buttons. The NORM position does nothing electrically. This means that by mapping SET ENGINE NORM MODE to ‘on release’ on both button 7 and button 8 (in either order) it will fire SET ENGINE NORM MODE whenever the switch is moved from CRANK or from IGN/START, as that ‘releases’ the buttons associated with those positions.
That’s not what I meant by that. At the moment, the sim has this bug where the control bindings on the right column behaves not the way it’s suppose to. When you bind Button 8 on the right column even set on release. The sim will not treat it as such. Instead it treats it as on press. So when you move the TCA switch to the IGN/START position (button 8), the sim reads it as On press and On release at the same time. Flipping the switch in the cockpit back and forth between IGN/START and NORM.
The reason why I said to flip the button 7 and 8 with each other, is so that the Button 8 IGN/START position is to be moved to the left column where this bug doesn’t exist. That way, you can switch it to the IGN/START position, and the switch in the cockpit will stay in that position until you “release” it back to the NORM position.
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Same throttle but different question.
Did anyone try the user created detents from sites like thingverse.com?
OK - thanks for clarifying. Do you happen to know if this bug has been reported to / acknowledged by Asobo? Incidentally, it’s possible I have the bindings the way you recommend, as I have personally not experienced the flip-flopping that some have.
I dunno, it depends.. Are you on the SU10 beta or on the SU9? The IGN/START flipping problems come from the SU9 version, and it’s plaguing default Asobo A320 and the FBW A32NX at the very least. If Fenix doesn’t have the problem, then perhaps Fenix themselves already fixed it on the aircraft level.
I’m pretty sure the bug has been reported by someone, but I’m not sure whether it was already acknowledged or not. I don’t have visibility in that matter. But usually whenever a workaround is found, the priority to have it fixed drops down significantly.
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Same issue on FS 2024 and this controller, i have 3&4 Setup and i have managed to get the Crank - Norm - IGN button to work much the same way as explained by @ConstVoid . But i have now clue how i should program the Auto brake Button which have several Clicks - AutoBrake off - low - med - high… Do you also have suggestion for setting up this button (i especially problems getting the OFF command to work).
In my opinion this was a major design fail with the Airbus quadrant add-on - having a rotary rather than the 3 buttons as standard on most Airbus aircraft. It’s compounded by the fact that the default configuration set by the simulator is totally unusable, making it necessary to move the rotary to the off position manually, instead of autobrake switching off as soon as manual braking is initiated.
Here is what I have mine set to. This is at least usable, if a little bit of a pain (sorry I don’t have my sim PC fired up at the moment so I can’t give you the actual assignment names):
DISARM - electrically not connected - leave unbound
BTV - unbound
LO - bound to autobrake low
2 - bound to autobrake medium
3 - unbound
HI - bound to autobrake max
Then you can set the autobrake to low, medium and max as desired by moving the rotary to the appropriate position AND then moving it to the nearest unbound position (BTV or 3). The autobrake setting will be remembered by the aircraft, and when you hit the brake pedals the autobrake will be switched off, as it should. If you leave the switch in any of the low, medium or max positions it will force the autobrake on, even after you use manual braking.
Thanks for Tips, but i stil strugle with this one button ( or turning knob is more correct) :), does not help that in most of the Airbus that are coming free with the MS 2024 game it not a knob but 3 or 4 buttons. Its a nice feature to have on the 3&4 setup because they are usfeull during landing and if they are not working 100% each time i can ofc not use this knob for braking as you only have so much time before its to late .. Either way thank you for Tip!.
Edit: Problem is that it never work consistant, i never know if the correct low - med - hi and OFF will aplly or work at all for that matter. Got the Crank - Norm - IGN to work perfect so i thought i would get this to work as well… I think the main problem is as i mentioned that in most Airbusses it is not a turning knob but buttons.
Edit: Testing futher now, and what is really missing is a Autobrake OFF setting in the keybindings?. Does not help to insert the LO command again on -Disarm-, logically you think you then press the button again, but PC will just register as turn on again, i believe
In what circumstances do you require autobrake off? I can’t say I’ve ever needed it. With the settings I gave above the autobrake is turned off as soon as I press the toe brakes on my rudder pedals.
Nothing more major then that i want to use the button setting that i have, that said i just tested a Boing Airbuss and that plane had the ecaxt turning knob i have on the 3&4 and there i could use the hole range on the button incl Off. So main problem is that the Airbuss 320 have buttons. Oh well i will leave it at that, as you say not important.
That is correct procedure. Auto brakes turn off when you trigger manual braking.