After today’s update my usual Cessna 172 G1000 flights have somehow got autotrim turned on and I can’t find where to turn it off. As I’m flying any ascent/descent I do is fought against by autotrimming. If I do a steep climb it down pitches the trim and if I release it goes into a nose dive. It’s literally completely ruined the sim for me. I’ve tested several times and it keeps doing this. Only autotrim I’ve experienced before was in the A320 and there’s a simple button to turn it off and I can’t find one like it in the Cessna 172.
Lastly, the external view VFR map no longer recognizes where you placed it on the screen. Ever new session it doesn’t start top right corner like it used to, it’s off the center left of the screen.
Just an update I’m flying around Oahu now and not having the problem. Had the problem twice though when flying around French Polynesia and the Bahamas. Was checking out the water masking updates. I can confirm that the water masking is now definitely present in Turks and Caicos, most of all of the Bahamas, and Hawaii also definitely had an update. So water masking in some of these places is looking pretty fantastic when before it was plain blue. That bug where the trim was going crazy still concerns the heck out of me. One of the times it happened I rolled the pitch wheel all the way then back it it stopped.
Well, did a new flight and it happened again in Hawaii. Btw when this happens trim on my yoke does nothing to adjust trim when it always worked fine. The trim pitch never changes. This is seriously bad.
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I don’t think you are doing anything wrong. Mine is basically unusable, and has trouble even loading now. Tried 3 landing activities and after pressing fly, aircraft were basically frozen as if on AP (were not) and up/down yokes were totally reversed. The baron rotated at 45 knots and if held down by force, it would not come off the ground at 75. Did get it up once but the up/down control was totally reversed.
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Found it is happening because autopilot keeps enabling by default. Please up vote my bug thread here: Latest update - autopilot engaged by default 75% of the time or more
Check to insure you are using the modern flight model. If the legacy model is enabled it will cause exactly these kinds of problems.
Nope, I’m on Modern. Even tried switching to Legacy and back to Modern and tested again, still starts all mid air flights on AP. Try it man. Just start from say a random point around Nassau Bahamas (though I tested and it happens in Hawaii too). Don’t even set a destination, just go “Fly”. Trying going up or down and watch the trim autocompensate to fight your actions. Let go and watch the plane bounce back up or down wildly. Go to cockpit view and hover the mouse over AP and you’ll see the option to “Disengage Autopilot” - meaning it’s already on. Turn it off and back to normal.
*EDIT - tried also with the King Air and TBM930 and same issue exists, it starts the flight with autopilot engaged. Never had this before, always had to turn it on when I wanted to engage it.
I’m not seeing that with the TBM or C172. It sounds like a controller axis or switch has gotten assigned to autopilot engage. I have an x-box controller that I use only for drone camera views, but after the patch before this latest one, and bunch of other control assignments also got bound to it that were interfering with my yoke and throttle quadrant. Something like that may be the cause of your problem.
No its definitely not that. I did go and check every single controller I have and their mappings and nothing has changed there. Again, if I start any in-air flight whether or not I set a destination it starts the flight with AP engaged. It definitely did not ever do that before. I had my 79 year old mother over the week before last and I did several flights started in air to give her some site seeing as well as a couple of full flight plans. Not once did this happen starting in air.
I went to General/flight model and the screen was totally greyed out. It did show flight model as modern but there was no way to change any of the parameters on that page. All the other pages seemed to be fine. I don’t think this right but does it have any bearing on the problems?
2 days later - went back to gen/flight model and page was as it should be. Also found one of the up/down control axis on the yoke had the “reverse” box ticked so I untucked it. I also went to data and flipped it off then on.
Planes seem to be flying ok now. The baron had the nice nav with the key pad and no soft keys. Now it has the nav with the soft keys and needs the knobs turned (a pain). Do we get to choose which nav?
eehm… the ‘modern’ flight model is the correct one. You’re not supposed to be able to mess with any of the parameters. that’s why they’re greyed out.
The legacy flight models are only there to provide backward compatibility for (badly) ported FSX planes, please don’t use them with any of the MSFS2020 planes.
This behaviour is intended. If starting a flight in mid air, the sim sets the AP to ON. This was introduced in patch 2 I think and is intended (I believe) to help you take over control of the plane when starting in mid air more easily. It avoids the plane nosediving as soon as you press the FLY button. So once in the plane and oriented and ready to go, just disengage the AP. This is the same fix that stopped the AP being disengaged when using the “travel to” function for the same reason.
Well for me it only just started happening with this latest patch. I know this for certain. As for taking control, I always figured that is exactly what the FLY button is for, to make sure you’re ready to take control.
OK, but for me it was back in patch 2 (maybe 3, but at least that far back) in the TBM.
Either way, it is intended behaviour.
Fair enough, although I think you only have to disengage AP, and actually I suspect some people may have raised it as a bug that it put you in the plane in mid air without AP engaged
And I see yoy are getting the same feedback on your bug thread - i.e. not a definite bug and there is no right or wrong AP state when you spawn in mid air
True, only need to be disengaged, going to map a button on my throttle quadrant. and yeah I can see some viewing it the other way around. Just didn’t know and when doing the first two flights after the patch I would try to ascend or descend and it kept fighting me, then I let go and the rebound! LOL.
Never fun fighting the AP. The machines will always win!
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