I recently acquired the PA38 Tomahak, when running it I noticed that the flaps produce a pitching effect that is contrary to what is logical. When I activate the flaps the plane lowers its nose and when I remove them it goes up.
It should be the other way around.
I appreciate information.
According to a real Tomahawk pilot, this lowering of nose IS correct
However he did say he thinks it’s a little too pronounced of an effect.
I just read on the JustFlight forums that the excessive pitch effect on flap deployment has been fixed/adjusted “for the next patch”.
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Thank you mace for your prompt response.
Another anomaly that I noticed in the PA38 is the too short nose light. It does not illuminate the runway correctly in length.
I have tried to modify it through the “developers” menu but it does not save on the plane.
I appreciate support.
Many Pipers behave this way. PA28s do it every time.
Yes, I know. Like I said, a real world PA-38 pilot said the airplane does indeed pitch down on flap deployment, BUT that the JustFlight PA-38 pitch effect was in his opinion, “a little too pronounced”.
Apparently JustFlight agrees, and are lessening this effect in a future update.
Sure. I’d love to see some quantifiable data as to our perception of pitch in the sim versus reality. I postulate that we underestimate real-world pitch angles due to things our bodies naturally do to stabilize our visual field (including peripheral vision). Similarly, we overestimate what the sim is doing. 5° pitch doesn’t necessarily look like a lot in real life, but in the sim it sure does.
The aspect ratio of our monitors doesn’t help, haha.
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Ok charliefox, Do you know that by running developer mode, I can modify the parameters of the landing lights, the thing is that they are not recorded.
Hello, I am a tomahawk pilot, I confirm that the airplane nose lowers a little, but at no time does it lose altitude, on the contrary, it acquires more lift. In the simulator, the aircraft loses all lift when the flaps are released.
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Still waiting for that patch, or is it released? I still think the planes behavior when setting flaps or retracting them is odd. I also found that you can play around in rain and ice how much you want, there is absoolutely nothing happening with ice accumulated on wings, in engine - nothing happens, and Ive simulated the worse possible weater. Have you noticed this as well?
Which is the latest version as of today?
1.3 for MSFS.
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Exept for me, that cant get ice and freezing cold to affect the characteristics nor the engine - are there any other issues with the plane that you have found? I guess Im just a bit dissappointed about it, since well…things that I Just wrote, but also… I thought it would be mere on a comanche level, actuallty. I got if on sale, but for its ordinary price, you really, really wish something special. =)
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Hi
Another big mistake is the reaction to the wind, even when standing on the runway it turns with its nose into the wind.
I have a question about trims, namely, does the Tomachawk have aileron trim? In the simulator, aileron trim works, but rudder trim does not. Could it be that the programmer confused the rudder with ailerons?
Yes. I though JF had better quality control? It’s not like Carenado… =P
I can confirm that both aileron and rudder trim are simulated. You can control the aileron and rudder trim by adjusting the physical trim tabs via the walkaround mode.
Martyn - Just Flight
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To clarify, you mean JustFlight’s walkaround mode, correct?
I have to ask, since MSFS2024 now has a “walkaround mode” of its own. I like JustFlights walkaround better. 
I didn’t think the Tomahawk was compatible with MSFS2024 yet, am I right on that?
Hello Martyn, and thank you for answering our questions.
How is ice, snow, and really wet and cold rain handled? I flew around in very windy and icy conditions just to try, but nothing failed - not the pitot, the plane did not get slugging of snow or ice (hardly no buildup). Something still feels off (for me). I really need help how to solve this. Also when retracting flaps, should the plane pitch upwards after that (not downwards?).
Thank you!
Ps. Will we see any furhter updates or just changes, feats for it?
All other things being equal, in a perfectly stable situation, lowering the PA38 flaps should lower the nose and raising them should raise the nose. However, lowering the flaps adds drag so your speed is likely to decrease and the effect then may be different because of the removal of lift at a lower speed.
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