Training for complex engines and twin engine planes

Currently, most of the MS-provided training uses simple planes such as the Cessna 152. I would like to see the flight training expanded to have interactive trainings for complex engine planes, turboprops and twin engine planes, as well as expanded training for jets.

Great idea, yes the in sim training is a little, dare I say, lack luster…

Additional scenarios should be added to the next iteration (2024) to include emergency procedures too, such as loss of engine in flight. This would be even more relevant in a twin, when you loose an engine and you immediately have to apply full opposite rudder so you don’t yaw into oblivion…

EDIT: In the meantime there are a TONNE of good training videos on youTube (not the sim videos, though some of those are good too)

Heh, agreed, I wouldn’t put much into what it’s “teaching.” It sounds like flight things to the uninitiated, but it’s very much on rails and is not anywhere near the level of what an instructor is trained and certificated to do. That begins with the idea of using a Cessna 150 to train at Sedona, haha. I’d go as far as to surmise it has actually caused frustration and turned people away from the sim. Sure, it would have been boring if they’d put it in the farmland of southern Illinois, but it would have been much more realistic, been easy to follow, less distracting, and a lot better aircraft performance than trying to hit a gate by using a particular climb angle (!) at 7,000 density altitude. :zany_face:

Hahahah so very true!!! I wonder if the ones who chose Sedona as a lovely place to be introduced to flying in the sim even considered density altitude?

I’ve been to Sedona IRL and it really is spectacular; but I wouldn’t want to learn how to fly there.

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Making the goal a physical waypoint and altitude, versus setting a proper climb speed and accepting what the resulting climb rate does to your pattern is the first mistake. And it calls you out if you don’t hit the gate. Oof.

No mention of density altitude, proper high altitude leaning, climbing out of ground effect, or mountain technique in general. Those are advanced concepts for sure, but you pick Sedona, you pick a 150, it now becomes a lesson-one or two topic.

Not that we should take what we get in the sim as anything truly instructional… but people do and it’s a setup for bad habits.

Either way, I can’t tell you how many streams I’ve watched with people failing to hit the gate, and no explanation why they’re not hitting it. And they either get frustrated after 20 times and give up OR they finally achieve it by doing it absolutely, dangerously wrong, with no feedback other than, “good you hit your gates.”

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