Asobo please fix this
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Even as one of the perhaps less âseriousâ players who uses an Xbox controller or Steam Deck, to me this is still the biggest issue in the entire sim, both 2020 and 2024. I mean itâs even worse on a gamepad since throttle is mapped to buttons as well. Trim and throttle in airplanes is frustrating to say the least. Flying helicopters without assists is almost impossible, particularly close to the ground because of the need for constant adjustments to the collective.
I genuinely donât understand why this isnât bothering most people. No matter what the input device, how is the trim implementation remotely usable?
I play 2024 casually with an Xbox controller when Iâm not feeling like setting up for DCS and this bug is so annoying and makes for PIO in some aircraft. The 737 Max being one of them as I often over trim in a second of use on my trim key.
There is another post related to simulator trim on the forums that talks about, if you do make a trim adjustment to the amount you wish, the altitude and speed oscillate and never dampen. You trim down, the nose goes down, speed increases and the nose comes back up until the speed drops and you get this endless cycle. In my case I have an actual trim wheel and you can see the sim trim wheel following it (although it will jump to sync itself the first time you use it). Anyway, I think a great deal of the frustration of trimming control is in this endless oscillation that doesnât dampen itself like a real airplane will.
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Is that what that is? I do all of my âseriousâ swimming in DCS so coming to this for some casual fun was interesting just trying to get trimmed for landing, something I have no issue with in the DCS Warthog, Hornet or Tomcat. But here I overshoot, get it kinda dialed and then it feels wrong shortly after with no VS or airspeed changes. Figured it was me and the controller. Glad I didnât setup my Hotas as I wouldâve been even more confused.
Edit: I forgot to mention, my WarBRD and Xbox controller donât have FFB so when I trim i usually relieve the tension in the stick while trimming. The acceleration makes this impossible as I am tracking the trim in with the stick then the trim takes off and I overshoot causing oscillations.
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I noticed this topic is tagged msfs-2020, but this applies to msfs-2024 as well. Would a moderator be able to update these tags and make sure this is logged for 2024?
Iâm not sure why FS is programmed this way. Itâs the same with any input. It behaves like a keyboard. If you press b for instance, thereâs a small delay the the input repeats and you get several bâs. All of the buttons behave this way in FS. Basically itâs like youâre pressing the button rapidly. In the other sims I play, thereâs no repetitive input. The sim will register the button as pressed and wonât continuously send the input command to the sim. If you have the yoke displayed and use the trim nose up or down, youâll see the switch initially move in the commanded direction then go back to neutral momentarily then stay in the commanded direction as people here have been describing.
I found a work around but it doesnât work for every airplane. It only works if there is an aircraft specific yoke trim binding. For the specific airplane youâre flying find the yoke trim switch key binding. You need to bind the the nose up and down trim to the as you would normally. Then you need to bind trim neutral to trigger on release of nose up or down trim. See the example below for the CL-415.
This aircraft uses a split trim switch. In real life you need to press both switches to get trim movement. If you only press one, the trim will not move. This is to prevent runaway trim because of a stuck switch. The Left and Right refer to the corresponding yoke. You only have to bind one yoke, but you need to bind both switches (1 and 2). In this case elevator trim decrease means trim nose UP. Iâm using my POV hat as my trim control.
Bind POV up to Left Elevator Trim 1 and 2 Decrease and Neutral Primary
Brind POV down to Left Elevator Trim 1 and 2 Increase and Neutral Secondary
Note the âSpecificâ tag on the control binding
Next Click the gear all the way on the right of Left Elevator 1 Neutral
Click Set control on release (box is checked)
Click secondary at the top
Click Set control on release again.
repeat for for Left Elevator 2 Neutral.
This will work for any aircraft that has a specific binding for yoke trim as noted by the âSpecificâ tag. The annoying part is that you have to do this for every plane you fly and only if it has a specific trim binding.
Still an issue as of today.