Trim inverted in some aircrafts

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:
The trim works well in the C152 and C172, but when I passed the “High performance Endorsement Certification” I crashed during take off ( I don’t remember which aircraft was used for that, but it was the first time I had to fly it) because the trim axis was inverted. The nose of the aircraft goes up erratically around 60-80knots. Once I inverted the trim in the settings, it went well until the next flight which was with the Bonanza, where I had to undo that and come back to the setting that worked for the Cessnas.
I saw a youtube video from A330Driver where he was trying his first flight with the default Asobo 738 Max and he crashed on takeoff as well, I suspect he had the same problem.
So it could be happening on many aircraft!

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue:
The one used in the “High performance Endorsement Certification”, i don’t remember the name. And maybe with other aicrafts!

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?
yes

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?
every time I tried

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

1.fly with the Cessna 172 with a good trim setting
2. then try to take off at the “High performance Endorsement Certification”
3. The nose of the aircraft goes up erratically around 60-80knots.

YOUR SETTINGS

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What peripherals are you using, if relevant:
T16000M, TWCS, trackir

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?
no

[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?
RTX2060

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?
Ryzen5 3600, 32 GB ram

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So far the list is the Cessna C400, the Draco and the Diamond DA60. For heavens sake WHY ARE WE THE **** BETA TESTERS! Don’t you bother flying the aircraft at least ONCE before signing them off?? I want a DISCOUNT for finding this stuff and the emotional stress this causes. The list is almost endless of bugs and stupid things WE have to find for YOU in a game that cost me $129.00 !!!

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:
The trim axis is reversed for some planes (Draco is one of the bunch). Is it for Xbox only? For TurtleBeach VelocityOne Flight? I don’t believe so…

Is there a possibility to validate that all trim axis are the same for all delivered planes?

(The issue was also present in 2020).

See post here

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue:

  • Draco

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?
Every time

REPRODUCTION STEPS

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  1. Start a free flight (or career - don’t matter)
  2. Get in plane
  3. Use the trim (reversed)

YOUR SETTINGS

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What peripherals are you using, if relevant:

  • TurtleBeach VelocityOne Flight w/ Rudders
  • TurtleBeach VelocityOne FlightStick
  • Xbox Controller
  • Microsoft Mouse
  • Microsoft Keyboard

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?

[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• It does not ressemble what I described. Winds (or career trainings) do not have anything to do with it. Draco X has a trim axis that is the opposite of a Cessna 172 or 152…

The Cessna C408 SkyCourrier (plane I got on MSFS24) is also reversed. There are others.

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• See here

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• Yes. I’ve detected the same problem

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• for example: after using other plane, everytime I load the C172, I have to invert the trim axis.

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737 also has reversed trim .

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the AT-802 goes on this list too. there are about a third of the planes in the base game like this. beats the rescue mission i had where i had no airspeed gauge and fialed for landing next to the guy and being told it was an unauthorized landing location. in the middle of the desert.

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The Ju-52’s trim has been reversed since it was released, but it took them a couple of years just to add drag to the flight model, so I’m not holding my breath.

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It is marked as fixed in the latest patch, but it isn’t!

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That’s funny. I didn’t even notice that in the change log.

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Thank you for the bug report.

We have created an internal ticket to see if our team already has this logged, and if not they will attempt to reproduce the issue and create a new bug report. This item is now marked as feedback-logged. If there is an existing bug report or one is created, we will move this thread to bug-logged.

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For me it is with the TWCS Throttle

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Fixed in SU2.