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Hi there, I’m not sure if I’m in the right place to discuss this, so apologies if not.
I’m struggling with planning IFR flight. In the Microsoft planning area I select my airport for departure along with a SID. On the arrival side I’m struggling. I select my arrival airport and I’m give two drop down boxes one day direct and the others say automatic. When select for example I want ILS on a certain runway it gives me some strange un flyable approach which will be in able to capture the ILS. What am I doing wrong?
Also if the leave the arrival drop down boxes to direct and automatic, what does automatic mean?
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Hi @VariableWig7485
Can you give me the airplane, and specific departure airport and SID you’re using, and the specific arrival airport and runway/ILS you’re having trouble with, and I’ll look at it and see if there is a specific reason you’re having problems with the arrival and approach.
Thanks
Hi, in your post you have on arrival (SHAFF7) is this the route it will take? i.e the Star?
But you have Automatic of Approach, what does this mean /do?
Automatic will assign your runway and approach based on weather and other factors like would happen in the real world. If you select a specific runway and approach in the world map screen, your autopilot will fly that even if it puts you in conflict with other aircraft or has you landing in unfavorable winds.
First screenshot:
For that example, I had clicked the right Drop Down Box,
Approach (Automatic), and selected a runway.
The left box was not used.
Second screenshot
For that example, I had clicked the left Drop Down Box,
Arrivals (Direct), and selected a STAR (Standard Aviation Arrival) arrival.
The right box was not used.
STARs are controlled by ATC. Keeps all traffic flow in line.
With the Approach (Automatic) Drop Down Box, you can select the runway
that you want your planes ILS to use.
Seems more direct than a STAR to me.
But, you are flying in a sense like you are the only plane in the sky.
Everyone else is going to have to avoid you.
I’ve had them fly through me to land ahead of me.
I don’t fly the STARs myself.
If you don’t choose either drop down box, the AP will fly you to the destination airport and you will fly over it and beyond.
You have no ILS arrival programmed.
Sorry for the late reply, hanks for the replies. Maybe it just EGBB when I select ILS for runway 33 the route it gives me, make it so the plane cant capture the ILS. ( it loops me around the airport then a sharp turn for final. too short to capture ILS
I just flew that approach twice, once in AP, and then hand flew the second approach in the D-930 and both worked fine. As CasualClick mentioned, make sure you’re slowing down to approach speed.
But additionally, one thing you said concerned me is your statement that it led you to a sharp turn. None of the turns in an instrument approach should exceed a standard rate turn, and many are half-rate turns. If you’re trying to fly to each point of the approach and then making your turns, you will definitely have an issue. You’ll need to start your turns far enough in advance of each point to allow for a normal turn (at most a standard rate turn) to roll out on the next leg to the next waypoint.
I’ve attached a screenshot of a more normal turn rate plan to get to final approach.
Regards
This shot was taken at descent speed, so the turns are a bit wider than they actually are once you’re slowed to something close to approach speed.
