Unpopular opinion: This flight simulator is amazing

Disagree. It’s related to discussions in this thread. and i do agree that the simulator is amazing. it’s probably rating around 80% but would i like that 20% (the hardest 20% to achieve in software development) to be a little better and not be as obvious.

Thank you for your insight that polite, constructive criticism can be useful if asked for. Perhaps IMO even better if it was confined to threads for that purpose instead of on every thread. Why don’t you start a thread yourself.
I do admire some of your constructive posts and hope to see many more in future.

Since you are happy, i.e satisfied with FS2020 and enjoying it , I think it might be worth pointing out - to get this thread finally back on topic now that you have made your point - that there is a very interesting thread with the title ‘Who is satisfied with FS2020 and enjoys this great product? Hint: NOT who is dissatisfied’ . More than 350 posters have already given positive posts. Have not seen a post from you or OlafP88 there yet.

Might also be of interest to the OP @SammyAwesum
Really does seem that 'This flight sim is amazing is not an unpopular opinion
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And once again your assumption are wrong - being an Alpha and Beta tester I am well invested in seeing this simulator be the best it can be.

Just keep in mind, you can only speak for yourself with any accuracy so stop projecting your assumptions into others

You made a very precise statement (simulation issues are nuances). I had an opinion based on that, and I posted that opinion. It’s really as simple as that.

I am sorry that this offends you.

The image I’ve seen frequently posted of all the glowing reviews from the various gamer publications doesn’t translate into the stores - the place where money is spent.

I would rate it at 4 of 5 stars.

Just went to that page myself and looked at some of the top negative reviews. These are not reviews. These reviewers are talking about issues, bugs, difficulty with installation etc etc. These are not reviews of the actual MSFS 2020 product, but with its issues.

Imagine that you just bought a world-class shampoo and it works great when you apply it on your hair, but you had terrible difficulty opening the cap of the bottle and you even hurt your fingers a little while trying to do so. Ask yourself: is the actual product (the liquid shampoo material) bad in this case? Absolutely not. It’s the bottle that’s bad. The devs haven’t even denied the issues, did they?

However, in these days and age of social media, tiktok and instant gratification, not many people would realize this logic, and instead they would write long bug reports and pass them on as a review to prove to themselves and others how smart they are that they finally did something great in life and found 15 minutes of fame by finding little flaws in a product made and supported by a company whose current market valuation stands at 1.3 trillion US dollars. :slight_smile:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B08CZZVC2M/ref=acr_dp_hist_1?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=one_star&reviewerType=all_reviews#reviews-filter-bar

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In my opinion, it doesn’t matter what the content is. They are there. They are visible for all time until someone decides to edit them. And for people who look at star ratings, or even more problematic, filter based on ratings, these can result in customer loss.

He is going to have to make a bigger effort now and show us how little he knows.
Oop, already done.
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A little fish trying to fight against the marketing tide of a multi-billion corporation.

I completely agree. MSFS is bugs and all is a revolutionary step forward. The only thing I would change is maybe they should have launched as a public beta at least until the holiday season.

But this is the sim of the future. I still fly a small amount in other sims. One because of aircraft availability in MSFS when flying on FS Economy. The other is just to compare and contrast between the two to assist in troubleshooting bugs.

I can say that no more money will be spent toward any other sim other than MSFS for me.

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Since you seem to be an expert in customer and/or financial loss prevention, please show me details of your company you have built or managed that currently has a market valuation of 1.3 trillion US dollars. It will be very interesting and enlightening to look at and study the data. Thank you :slight_smile:

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Unfortunately, welcome to every user-based review system ever.

If they’re not passing bug reports and incompetence off as reviews, they’re handing out zeros to ‘send a message’.

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That’s the same in my case. I really don’t see any sense or need to buy a new version of any other sim or any addons for other sims. I guess most people who bought FS2020 think the same. Seems to spell doom and gloom for the other sims - providing MS/Asobo fix the bugs before the other sims release a new version with major improvements.

I guess it also means that the few people who are spreading doom and gloom for FS2020 are really naive and are wasting their time.
Small fish in a big pond.

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It is an amazing base…to get an amazing sim…in the future.

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It is just selling like hot cakes. That brings more people with varying opinions and complaints.

This is like every driving sim I have ever adopted early. Always a noisy group complaining that the game isn’t a sim, and that it is still in beta.

The more popular the software is, the more complainers you get.

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I agree. IMO it shows how desperately they want it. Sort of negates their complaining effort when the stay and keep complaining.

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Forgive me, I am just a fish, but I am having difficulty following your logic of having to be a principal in a large company in order to comment on this subject.

Many companies large and small, have entire departments whose full-time job is to scour social media looking for poor product reviews and complaints, and then engage one on one with those consumers to attempt to resolve the issue. The economics of this are fairly straightforward: a single negative comment or review on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, a store website like Amazon, can cause financial loss that is many multiples of the magnitude of the original unhappy person. In fact, it can be so damaging that there have been multiple instances in the U.S. now where companies have filed lawsuits against reviewers for libel.

Businesses across nearly all sectors have these types of programs, from major financial institutions to automobile manufacturers, to big-box retailers. I don’t know if Microsoft does this or not; I have not seen them doing it. I’m sure that this is a financial calculation on their part, and that it probably makes sense - most of Microsoft’s revenue is not from consumers, but rather enterprise customers. However, it obviously makes financial sense for many businesses to have full-time employees doing this, otherwise they wouldn’t have them.

Bad reviews hurt. And while they may not hurt enough to shut down this particular piece of software, they will chip into that bottom line.

I’m also interested in cash flow, EBIT, EBITDA, OPEX, CAPEX of the Digital Fish Company :wink:

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I’m sorry you are IMO totally naive and generalising. In those cases you are talking about, the (alleged) disappointed customer can purchase a competitor’s product, that would cause a profit loss.
Which product would that be in this case? XP12?
Or they do not buy at all, that would also cause a profit loss. But you do not mention why a few bad reviews would prevent further sales of FS2020. Did you not buy because of nice YT video and advertising.

Your comments sound like a sales pitch that a professional troll offering a sales disruption service would put to a competitor. Please pretend I am such competitor, convince me with specifics.

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