Unrealistic sunsets and sunrises

When I go outside to walk my dogs in the evening it looks like this:

Then I start a flight in MSFS and the world look like this:

Also, does this look like overcast? No matter how thick cloud layers I set, the bloody sun shines through it.

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Those cads! How could Asobo and MS foist such ■■■■ upon us? I find the graphics in this sim to be so offensive, I have to wash my eyes out after playing it for 12 hours at a time.

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Most of the time the graphics, especially lighting is superb IMHO. There is this issue how the sun light passes through clouds. But there also seems to be some lacking of ambient light. A cockpit is a bit too dark in day light. I know there is a goal to emulate eye perception when looking towards bright light, but there still should be no need to use flashlight in daylight to be able to see what position is a switch set to(!) And in cloudy (overcast) days the environment is generally too dark, which is a bit odd since sun is always visible through the thickest cloud layer.

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:laughing: Another one for my quote library

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Sadly such are the limits of current lighting engine. Raytraced Global illumination is a definite fix. Will have to wait for dx12 and dxr.

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Credit where it’s due, though: those photogrammetric trees in that screenshot are absolutely spot on! :wink:

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I was thinking this a couple days ago. The cloud layer was like 5,000 feet yet I could see soooo much sunset light and all the red/orange hues coming through. Its not realistic and will hopefully be fixed. Should have been grey and dark for the most part.

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You guys really have to look up more often. This same subject was beat to death about purple sky in the sim, Until everyone started showing real time photos of a purple sky. In actuality , science and astronomy will tell us why we have such a large array of sky colors on the earth. Our Sun, Sol, actually produces a white light. Meaning all the colors in the spectrum. And when at the right angle, time of day, atmospheric make up, it will produce all the colors in the spectrum from infrared to ultraviolet. Rainbows anyone??

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He’s not saying it doesnt look like this from time to time, its just every sunset looks the same and for most days is way over done and unrealistic. Especially through layer clouds.

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Agreed every sunset in game looks apocalyptic especially with clouds. It looks nice but i’ve never seen a glowing orange overcast sky so it kills realism

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In some conditions yes, when the sun is below horizon or just in the horizon. I don’t see this kind of sunsets very often where I live.

Sigh…

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Oh, man. I find the sunsets in MSFS2020 very realistic. I think I saw one of the most beautiful sunsets in Las Vegas and it looked like in MSFS.

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I get quite a few orange mornings, but it’s mostly because I have significant amounts of pollution being spewed into the air from the city to the east of me, lmao.

Sunsets like the sim happen around me also, but they’re significantly rarer I’d say.

It really just depends on atmospheric conditions, which obvious can vary widely in real life. This program just doesn’t seem to account for such variations in any way that I can tell, so we get the same sunset/sunrise every day, all over the world, including regions that wouldn’t commonly see such skies.

Not many pics in overcast or broken clouds conditions there, wonder why… When the sky is mostly covered by clouds overall ambient light is quite cool, not warm like in the sim. Issues in the sim is with the clouds.

That’s so true, 10/10 trees!

Those are edited photos not anything close to an accurate representation of what the human eye sees.

The color temp of the game is too warm during sunrise and sunset. The sky is also too contrasty at sea level/low altitude.

The sim has a problem with cloud density, often making them way too transparent. I wonder if there’s also an issue with draw distance though. The clouds are supposed to go out to 200 km, where the simulator than abruptly stops drawing them. Not an issue usually unless you’re way up in the stratosphere, but I’m wondering if the setting sun is making it below that overcast layer cut off sometimes, and then lighting it up in blazing orange and red as a result.

When I’m photographing sunsets, this is exactly the type of conditions I look for: A cloudy sky, but the far western horizon is clear. It doesn’t happen every day, but when it does, you can get some real fire in the sky. Here’s one we had a couple weeks ago with an overcast deck, but clear skies about 150 km to the west. Looks a lot like your sim screenshot:

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Actually, they are not. Did you read the link to why science tells us why the sky is colored like it is Ill link again.

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So unrealistic. Here we have the Belt of Venus (the pink band above the horizon opposite the sunset) with the blue-grey band below of the Earth’s shadow being cast through the atmosphere in to space. In-game vs. real-life photo. Amazingly accurate attention to detail.

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