UPGRADE 5800X3D to 9800X3D; how was it?

To echo the info SkyPilotYTS provided:

Unlike the previous 600-series chipsets, the difference between X870E and X870 is fairly large this generation. Although both will get you PCI-e 5.0 for your GPU and primary M.2 drive, the X870E features twice the USB and maximum SATA ports as the X870, alongside additional chipset PCI-e lanes that can be used for better networking, more expansion slots, or additional controllers for even more M.2, USB, or SATA connections.

If you are configuring a new system, the primary determinant for whether to get an X870E or X870 is how much connectivity you need for add-in cards, storage, and peripherals. For a stripped-down setup with minimal USB devices, an X870 will likely be sufficient. However, if you use more than a few USB devices or something like a video capture card, an X870E board will likely be better. Similarly, since there are more free PCI-e lanes, we expect to see higher bandwidth networking (like 10G) built-in on the X870E boards as compared to the X870 boards, although that will be up to the motherboard manufacturers to decide on.

I personally have an X670E, which uses the same base B650 chipset as the X870 series, but is missing a few features I don’t need (mainly USB 4.0). Less expensive than an X870E, yet it has the same core features.

If you want the latest and greatest, or you need USB4, by all means get an X870-series. But get the ‘E’ version.

I think the X670E is a much better value. Of course you need to know that not all motherboards are created equal. Between the top chipsets of the 600- and 800-series, the only large difference between X870E and X670E is that the X870E boards are guaranteed to have USB 4.0 (40 Gbps), whereas many X670E boards lack this feature. Otherwise, the connectivity is the same. Since the new processors support higher-clocked memory, we may also see better memory optimizations on the X870E boards, but that will depend on motherboard manufacturers to implement rather than being something native to the chipsets themselves.

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Absolutely. The X670- and X870-series boards are both based on the B650 chipset. They offer some additional features, but for a budget-driven build a B650 motherboard is a good choice for the newer Ryzen CPU’s.

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Readying up! Checkings fulfilled! BRB! :slightly_smiling_face:

Nb: I got a X870E for the lanes, you can get up to 4 M.2 ssd’s without losing GPU bandwidth.

I did several runs over Manhatten with the new 9950X3D (on also new X870E board, rest of parts are the same. No overclocking.) … and the improvement is immediately and repeatedly obvious!
No more spikes, stuttering. Also the map details, like buildings, are shown without lag or missing fragments.
Compare to my post with 7800X3D stats.

I just saw I posted in another thread. For clarity, here 2 runs, one with 7800X3D and second with 9950X3D:


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I did a similar test, but with the 7950x3D. In your 9950x3D run, did you end up becoming GPU limited? I used the default discovery flight over New York in the 172. I was actually surprised that I was GPU limited in that situation. I had to drop my graphics down to DLSS/Performance to get CPU limited again.

This was also with frame generation off, but the difference was pretty substantial.

@ERIXX11 I’m glad to hear that your CPU is working fine. However, I think you posted in the wrong topic, as this one is not about switching from 7800X3D to the 9950X3D. The topic linked below should be a better fit for your tests.
https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/universal-repeatable-msfs-2020-benchmark/586159

True. Just wanted to elaborate a previous post. And being so similar the 9800 and 9950 some folks might get something from it. But will move on.
For the sake of answering @V1rota7e I run at 4k Ultra, all on, except Motion blur (off).

9800X3D and 9950X3D are completely different CPUs, not only in terms of price but also in their architecture and intended use. In any case, I’ll stop here to avoid going off-topic.

I am sure everybody knows the difference between 8 and 16,… cores, my brother in the air.
But overall games performance is similar.
For sure 5800 to 9800 is a nice thing, especially for a monster like FS
But lanes are also an interesting object of study, as big M.2 drivers are very expensive, so more lanes allows you to add more M.2 drives for a reasonable price. :wink:
Have a save flight!