Do you use a television instead of a PC monitor? Just today at Costco I saw several 4K, 60Hz-144Hz, 40"-55", Samsung, LG, Hisense, etc televisions from $200-$400.
Does a TV have issues? Response time? Color? Anything?
Do you use a television instead of a PC monitor? Just today at Costco I saw several 4K, 60Hz-144Hz, 40"-55", Samsung, LG, Hisense, etc televisions from $200-$400.
Does a TV have issues? Response time? Color? Anything?
I’ve been using a Hisense 55U7NQTUK for 10 months now without any problems with my PC and love it. Firmware and software gets updated, it has gaming features such as AMD Freesync Premium Pro and 144Hz and I’d recommend it.
In TV’s, OLED will generally (but not always) give you the best input lag and pixel switching numbers, meaning less blurring of fast motion. OLED also has the better black levels. I wouldn’t buy one with a 60Hz refresh. You don’t want the sim’s FPS to exceed the refresh rate of your monitor.
OLED is susceptible to image retention. Manufacturers use things like pixel shifting to reduce it, but it’s still something you should pay attention to by not leaving (for example) a menu or still frame on the screen for hours. LED’s don’t have that problem, but the picture quality can be less impressive at lower price points. Having said that, I recently attended a SONY event that showed off their high-end (VERY expensive) Bravia 9 Mini-LED monitors (up to 85") The picture quality was extremely impressive and the black levels were at least equal to the high-end Samsung and LG Pro OLED’s they had for comparison. Bottom line, you get what you pay for. Values can be found, though. I have to say…I REALLY wanted one of those 85" monitors for my gaming setup. $4,500 is a bit out of my budget.
Also, be aware that many lower-end TV’s use upscaling to achieve 4K. I know someone who had some issues with a ‘4K’ projector that uses upscaling. Best bet is a native 4K computer monitor, but if you want a bigger screen for more immersion (especially at the lower end of the price spectrum) you’ll need to make some compromises.
Hi,
I’m using a 43" LG OLED TV and I’m loving it.
Look here.
If I had to make the decision again I would choose an even bigger one. 55" at least.
It’s really fun and very immersive and I don’t need head tracking and the like.
Regards, Frank
I have used a 75" 4K QLED TV as a monitor for my MSFS system for the last 4 years, and it has been magnificent. In recent years I have added satellite 43" and 50" TVs as secondary monitors, and again magnificence prevails.
For the main screen, it’s only limitation is its max refresh is 60Hz, which I do not really consider to be a limitation because I am completely fine with 60Hz in any game. Otherwise, colour, response time, brightness, contrast, static images for hours are all completely fine.
I did have an 65" OLED TV before it and it ended up suffering burn in after about 5000 hours of total use (of which maybe 1000 hours was as a monitor), but it was one of the first gen OLEDs and I hear the new ones are much better in this regard. Nonetheless, if I were to replace my current 75" QLED TV I would still not get an OLED and would get a much bigger Mini-LED QLED for the same cost and run it hard like I do with my current TV.
I bought 42" LG oled42C44LA. Graphics while flying are great but taking photos over exposes but I suppose I need to learn haow to alter the colour saturations.
I have to turn HDR off to get screenshots that aren’t overexposed.
Mine was off and they were oversxposed so I turned it on and still overexposed. I will look into it again - cheers
I have 3 Walmart Vizio Vseries 50" HDTVs (each $214 USD) for wraparound views and find them extremely clear and plenty bright. Flying around in Yosemite Valley or gliding in the Swiss Alps is just amazing. I do have a 9800X3D+RTX5080. I run the center display at 4K and the side displays at 2560x1440 so as to provide better FPS (60 approx with framegen in 2024). MSFS2020 is quite a bit faster.
The difference between a TV and a PC monitor is that the TV
has the additional TV capability.
The specs is what matters whether the display is either.
One difference is that TVs usually have only HDMI inputs.
DP inputs have better specs.
I use a DP to HDMI video cable to get additional HDR video quality from my PC to my TV.
Hi @ChuckMiller1964
I purchased a 55" HiSense U7K TV about a year ago. I would have purchased a larger size if I had room for it.
It is working very well as a 4K display for MSFS 2020 & 2024 (though I have to reduce the render scaling in 2024 to 65 as my 16GB Arc 770 GPU is overstretched at 100).
No issues with response time or color (I have changed various settings on the TV to get the color balance to my liking). This model can run at 120 FPS at 4K.
The Microsoft Xbox game bar app allows me to take screenshots without over exposure when HDR is enabled.
As @MSFSRonS say, specs matter, so make sure that the specs meet your needs. I would not recommend purchasing the TVs sold at shops like Walmart - if you read reviews you’ll see they have lower specs and tend not to work well for gaming.
Do your homework, and if you have questions about specific models, ask here & folks can provide feedback & guidance.
Also, as @MSFSRonS also says, you may need to purchase a DP to HDMI video cable. These are not all the same, and you need to get the right cable that matches your planned display resolution, color depth & refresh rate.
Also note that officially, the maximum length of a DisplayPort cable is up to 3m (9.8 feet), which is one of the potential drawbacks if your TV needs to be further away from your PC than that.
High quality HDMI cables can be up to 15m (49.2 feet). That may not be important if your TV will sit on a desk above the PC & only used for MSFS, but it may matter if you plan to use your TV for home theater use in addition to MSFS.
I currently use an (old-ish) 45" 1080p tv, eventually will upgrade to a 4k but seeing as monitors are pricy, MSI 30 something inch 2K monitor is like $600+, a 40in+ 4k TV will be fine for me.
Yes, you are right about DP. I was sad I could not get a TV with a display port, however this TV of mine only goes to 144Hz anyway, with a 8k Ultra fast HDMI I should get better colour differentiation. I will play around a lot more once my PC works.
How strange, would a DP to HDMI cable improve on a 8k ultra fast HDMI? In my understanding the HDMI part would still restrict it to HDMI - I may be so very wrong in my interpretation.
Fiber optic active HDMI if you want zip 0 issues on TV. I was running passive at 25ft. Was having HDR intermittent issues galore. A member here was kind enough (Begottenpoet) to lead me to the fix. Well worth the extra change. I use all active fiber now, some only 6ft. No issue since. As mentioned above, Native 4k, no upscale projector in my future. A little bit pricey for a retiree with lots of hobby. lol. I’m shopping/saving now for that.. Good luck with your choices
I use monitor for doing my job and I have 55" TV connected for the sim. There is one big advantage of using TV for those who has not high end pc’s. I limited fps to 30 and set TV for gaming mode. Furthermore modern tv’s has many motion options which are very helpful to add fake fps similar to frame gen. This gives me very smooth expierience in 1440p, TAA and mix of high and ultra settings. There’s no annnoying choppiness while panning the camera and doing rapid movements compared to native 30fps on monitor. I don’t have to use frame gen which kills my vram to get smooth simming. …and I prefer the size of TV compared to monitor
I went through several DP to HDMI cables trying to get HDR to work in FS2020.
The 3rd cable worked. (AGFINEST 8K DisplayPort to HDMI Cable - 1.4 to 2.1)
DP Cable
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1.4 is required for HDR.
HDMI Cable
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2.0 & 2.1 are required for HDR.
DP to HDMI Cables
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1.4 to 2.1 is required for HDR.
DP 1.2 to HDMI 2.0 -> 4K @ 30 Hz, SDR
DP 1.4 to HDMI 2.0 -> 4K @ 60 Hz, SDR
DP 1.4 to HDMI 2.1 -> 4K @ 60 Hz, HDR
65in 60hz TV with an IPS screen 2.1 HDMI gives me VRR. Bought it when I got an Xbox a couple of years ago. Now that I’ve got a decent PC I wish I would have gone for a 120hz. I thought about getting one but it’s ridiculous to replace a TV that works fine. And it runs super smooth with vSync anyway, a constant 60 FPS. I don’t use HDR. Don’t like it don’t want it. I play about 8 ft away in my recliner with a wireless mouse and keyboard and Xbox game controller. Works for me.
65 inch, 60 Hz TV here.
It is great.
You don’t need 120 HZ for FS2024.
It looks to be almost impossible to have a 4K TV that is under 43 inches. 43 is too big to have 2 feet from my nose (on my desk). Maybe I can extend the back edge of the desk. Pondering…