Honestly, VHHH is a work in progress IRL at the moment, so inaccuracies are kind of to be expected. Presently 07C has been decommissioned, and 07L/R are both in use, although they close one runway each night.
For ongoing accurate navdata during the construction, a Navigraph subscription is probably your best and only option. Just make sure any scenery you have includes all 3 runways.
Actually already using Navigraph subscription, have been using since started flightsimming. But issue is with default scenery not having third “north” runway… which is unfortunate as third runway was opened already 2021, I kind of hoped that it would succeed to default scenery also within this time as VHHH is also one of the most flown airports within online flightsim community where I am.
Some WS studios 3rd party payware addon seems to be available but it has been reported to have several issues with performance (CTD etc)… no thanks.
I’ve just got to VHHH, on a bit of a long-winded world tour, and have discovered exactly the same issue. Simbrief suggested 25R as an arrival runway, yet MSFS doesn’t list that one and also doesn’t list any STARs for VHHH at all, when Navigraph navdata is installed.
Navigraph don’t appear to think it’s their issue, so hopefully Asobo will and will fix it.
Well to be honest, it’s not Navigraph’s fault at all.
The default MSFS VHHH scenery is completely outdated. MSFS’s runway 07L/25R is actually a completely different runway in a totally different position, to the 07L/25R runway in the current Navigraph data. Because of this, the current navdata doesn’t match the scenery, and MSFS therefore automatically disables all the terminal procedures.
Unfortunately, until Asobo update their default scenery, the only option is to use a third party scenery. Either a payware title, or a simple freeware runway fix would work. When you use a scenery where all 3 runways are available and with the correct idents, than all the procedures are selectable and viewable.
There is a payware version on Orbx, but it is not overly clear whether the VHHH SIDS and STARs will work in MSFS.
As there don’t appear to be any fixes and as i don’t want to be spending cash to not solve the issue, i think I’ll just fly in Direct for this iteration of my world tour.
I’m only about 15% through my first tour, so far, so maybe Asobo will get it fixed by the time i get round to VHHH on the next circuit.
oh, i’ve just done the flight and it would appear that the Fenix A320 navdata from navigraph, still contains the SIDS and STARs for VHHH and flew the STAR perfectly. I was expecting to get reprimanded by ATC for not following their direct arrival, but that didn’t seem to happen.
This makes sense. Most addon aircraft with advanced FMCs/avionics contain their own internal navdata, instead of using the MSFS database (like the flight planning page does).
Just make sure if you’re using runway 07L/25R, that you have scenery which includes the new 3rd runway, otherwise there will be significant issues. The easy soloution is to just use the southern runway, 7R/25L instead.
Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
Yes.
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When using Navigraph coupled with Fenix A320, there is no option for RWY 07C, but when capturing LOC for 07L, you are lined up further north than 07C, on what should be the new 07L. If the new runway isn’t yet built in MSFS, the nav data should match that fact.
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You’re using current real world navdata with outdated scenery. This conflict is to be expected. MSFS/Asobo can’t be expected to keep every airport worldwide up to date as they change.
You have 3 options.
Use outdated data the correctly matches the visual scenery in your sim.
Continue using current real world data, but find a scenery mod that updates the runway configuration to match the current real world configuration.
The center runway in HKG has been closed for almost 2 years. It is scheduled to reopen within the next 6-9 months. Maybe any update should wait untill then?
Hi. Just new to simming. Just bought MSFS 2020. I wonder if the new runway of VHHH is included in the sim or no? Because I can’t seem to find it in the FMC of A320N Asobo. No new runways there. I subscribed also for Navigraph 2407 cycle.
Hong Kong has been, and will continue to be for a while, a problem in MSFS if you don’t use 3rd party scenery and Nav data.
Last I checked, the new north runway, 07L/25R, isn’t included in the default scenery, and with the runway missing, all navdata for it (such as in FMCs) is automatically disabled. Combined with the fact the center runway has been closed for the best part of 2 years, and NavData for it isn’t included in AIRAC updates, you can see the problem.
The centre runway will however open later this year, so NavData will be available again soon. But, they plan on shutting down the south runway, 07R/25L afterwards for resurfacing (which it badly needs, it bumpy as hell), so this likely won’t be the end of issues at this airport.
Currently your only option is to find a 3rd party scenery, either payware or freeware, with all three runways in their correct position. Though if you use NaviGraph, you’ll still correctly be missing NavData for the center runway till it’s reopened.
If you don’t want to purchase a payware, I just noticed (with only 10 months delay ) that there is also freeware available now in flightsim.to… will test that next flying to Hong Kong.