Walk-Around Mode - VR Toolbar and "Tab EFB" Blocking View

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:white_check_mark: SIM INFORMATION

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  • Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 or 2024: 2024

  • Version Build Number (Where do I locate that?): Initial Release

  • Game Platform (Exampe: Steam, Xbox, MS Store): MS Store

:white_check_mark: ISSUE DESCRIPTION

  1. Description of the issue:
    The VR toolbar randomly pops up in walk-around mode, blocking view and disrupting immersion. There’s also a fixed hint about “TAB for EFB” that stays in the field of vision causing the same issues. There needs to be an option to remove any and all labels, tools etc. in walk-around mode to ensure a high level of immersion and functionality for this wonderful feature.

  2. Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue? YES

:white_check_mark: FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you? (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently) Always

:white_check_mark: REPRODUCTION STEPS

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  1. Simply enter walkaround mode via SHIFT+C etc.

:white_check_mark: YOUR SETTINGS

If the issue still occurs with no mods and add-ons, please continue to report your issue. If not, please move this post to the User Support Hub.

  1. What peripherals are currently plugged in, as well as your VR headset? Please name all of them as there could be a potential conflict. HC Alpha, XBOX Controller, Mouse, Keyboard, Quest 3

  2. [PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it? NO

  3. [PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?

  4. [PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use? 4080

  5. [PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share? 13700K, Win11

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I really hope this won’t be persistent issue like many (easily solvable I imagine) issues in 2020. I’m also baffled that not many people are bothered by this. We DON’T need a visual cue for this particular thing. Imagine there would be more. “Pull joystick/yoke back if you want to go up” all over the screen when flying :smiley:

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I don’t use VR, but the EFB message bothers me enough that I found this thread when searching. I even deleted the TAB key assignment hoping it would disappear. Nope, just says Toggle EFB now. Want a screenshot while you’re walking around outside? Forget it with that message at the bottom.

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Today I loaded Grumman Goose (big radials version) with my own livery. Surprisingly there was no “tab to EFB” prompt. I got excited walked around the plane for the first time and soaked it in. “They must have patched it” I thought. Welp, it only worked once. On that occasion.
It was glorious!

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Something makes it go away but I haven’t figured it out yet.

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• Yes. No steps necessary. It happens 100% of the time and can’t be avoided.

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• The toolbar problem crops up in cockpit too. It’s because the mouse cursor doesn’t stay where it’s placed. It constantly jumps to the point you are looking at which probably seemed like a good idea so that it doesn’t get lost somewhere but causes it to constantly pop up where you are looking. That combined with the huge tool tips in VR makes it really annoying even apart from the toolbar issue.

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Removing HUD in cockpit should remove also these labels and auto popping of VR Toolbar

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• I have exactly the same problem in VR the press tab for EFB always visible and a real immersion killer and it’s not required I feel that even beginners can find that info elsewhere.
Please please please remove it?

This is the same problem I’m having, especially in Airbus H125 helicopter. The toolbar is a real issue in VR, when you need it, you can’t access it easily even if you map it on a button. But then you look out the mouse activates it and you can’t get rid of it unless you pause and come back and this happens often. Very annoying.

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• Yes.

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• TAB for EFB title needs to be removed for walkaround.

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I’m baffled how people are not outraged by this. And rather pessimistic, knowing that not a lot of people cared about the white line where toolbar was (in 2d version) in msfs2020. I think there’s a better chance that someone makes mod to hide that rather than Asobo repairs it :frowning: