Ive seen these at sea over the Pacific…. They are insane, and the second you sail under the cloud wall, the winds and seas seem to explode….
Yes please, simulate this!!!
As an MSFS storm chaser, I can say with certainty that I’ve flown through areas of huge storms that have been forecast for days and you still won’t see lightning.
If Asobo/MSFS are working on it and do realise it’s a big issue why on earth don’t they acknowledge it and say they’re working on it and more importantly explain what goals they are working towards with the weather system.
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They have, by the fact this thread is tagged as “bug-logged”.
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bug logged carries as much weight as under investigation. its to make us feel there is progress. they have even started testing the waters of tagging bugs as fixed when they are not
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I just flew a flight from St. Gallen Altenrhein to Vienna. The METAR at Altenrhein said visibility 6 in heavy rain. I didn’t see any rain… IRL the METAR even gave CB in the area. When looking on the windy app, I saw a whole line of heavy thunderstorms between Altenrhein and Vienna but enroute, I only encountered a bit of rain and some clouds but no lighting at all. IRL I could see it flashing constantly on the windy app. I agree that, before SU7, lightning and thunder was excessive. But since that SU7, I have never seen any lightning or heart any thunder anymore. Not even in a region with heavy amounts of thunderstorm activity in real life.
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I flew this morning in northern Angola and was surprised by both lightning and thunder. So it does exist. It’s just a lot more rare than it used to be, I guess.
I could not believe it. Took a flight today from KDAL to KECP with departure at 16:45 UTC and arrival at 18:15 UTC. Near or about the time I crossed the Mississippi river north of KMSY, I was gazing out the window and all of a sudden I saw something and thought what was that. shortly later, it did it again, but thundered this time. By the time I was over the boot hill of Alabama and on into the western panhandle of Florida, it was getting with it. I could not believe it, and it was awesome!
Real like, with lightning bolts through the base of the clouds and out of the tops of the CBs. Most of the CBs or thunderheads were 16k to 18k, but a few were at 25k. This continued till about 40 miles west-northwest of KECP. KECP was mostly sunny with just couple of clouds, but you could look back to the west and northwest out of the cockpit and see the CBs and it looked (real) good. I would like to know what parameters came together to produce this, since this particular area started off the year with supercells and F4 tornadoes and its not really slowed down since - thunderstorm wise?
Anyone see lightning in Live Weather? Last comment on this thread was mid 2022… I haven’t seen any lightning in months.
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See the one from aRazorback4ever two posts up!
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And the one from me four posts up.
And I saw lightning and heard thunder again yesterday, so maybe it has snuck back into the game after being missing for a long time.
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That’s awesome. Wish I could see it. They must have combined a thread because the last comment I read was in 2022 (or I’m just blind). Thanks for the update!
Getting some around Sedona right now … a little sparse but it’s there
Is anybody actively testing this? Any photos? Italy has been under a deluge the last few days and i haven’t seen any thunder or real CB in the sims…the fact that you can see one sometime somewhere randomly doesn’t mean it’s fixed…it has been the case since su7. But overall it’s not functioning as it should!
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Thunder is usually accompanied by rain but rain is not usually accompanied by thunder (and from extensive rockclimbing experience in that area that goes for the far north of Italy too).
I know that thunderstorms can develop fast and also be over and gone in minutes and that makes thunderstorms really hard to predict exactly where those will occure. It’s unstable condition and means more chaotic and unpredictable. Do thunderstorms needs to be 100% predictable in the sim as long as the general conditions are there to maybe form thunderstorms? I would like to see thunderstorm develop over time and be able to see lightnings from far away. In the sim it’s an on/off switch we trigger and if we trigger that all of the clouds in the sky has a possibility to generate a lightning.
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That’s not necessarily what unstable means in this regard. That refers to the temperature lapse rate of the airmass, meaning a parcel of moist air lifted to the level of free convection will continue to rise because as it rises and expands (cooling) the air surrounding it is cooling even faster, allowing the parcel to remain bouyant.
Thunderstorms can be chaotic, but they can also fairly predictable once they initiate. It also depends on the type of storm: Air mass storms are less predictable as they are constantly cycling and affecting the surrounding parcels of air. However, lines of storms are fairly predictable once they have initiated and the storm cells and clusters have coalesced and stabilized in formation and growth (“gone linear”).
The problem with predicting them is that they’re often diurnal in nature - so you don’t necessarily know when or where they’re going to kick off to a high degree until closer to the forecast period, but once they do, fairly accurate forecasts can continue to be made until they dissipate, usually overnight. Those types of storms, often the most severe, cause large-scale problems to air traffic and accuracy is extremely important when deciding to go around or find the gaps in the line.
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Yes, i agree thunderstorms can be more predictable too. I meant if the conditions is forecasted to maybe form thunderstorms in that area it could also develop those thunderstorms that’s may not be in the real life but we need to be aware of in the sim.
Here’s a great example of NE Texas - about 3 hours ago:
See the convective SIGMET issued on the south end around DFW?
Observe, 1 hour ago:
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I’m fine if it’s a widespread area of airmass-type thunderstorms that are cycling. It’s when you get to frontal systems that it needs to be fairly accurate, as they get to be thousands of miles long and the timing of them (and any gaps that are available) absolutely matters.
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