Why Is Performance Better In My 10900K System Compared To My 13900K System?

System 1:

10900K @ 5.0 Ghz (Hyperthreading Disabled)
Z490 ROG Maximus Hero XII
G.Skill TridentZ RAM 64Gb DDR4 @ 4400
Nvidia RTX 3090 Founders Edition (517.48 driver)
Samsung Evo Plus 970 M.2 NVMe SSDs
Corsair HX1000i PSU
Asus TUF VG35VQ 100Hz Monitor
Win 11 Pro
Resizable Bar Off
HAGS off
TAA
V-Sync On
Frame Rate Limit 50% Monitor Refresh Rate
DX12
Ultra Settings

System 2:

13900K Stock (Hyperthreading Disabled)
Z790 ROG Maximus Hero
G.Skill TridentZ RAM 64Gb DDR5 @ 6400
Asus ROG Strix RTX 4090 OC Edition (528.49 driver)
Samsung 990 Pro M.2 NVMe SSDs
Corsair HX1500i PSU
Asus TUF VG35VQ 100Hz Monitor
Win 11 Pro
Resizable Bar On
HAGS On
TAA
V-Sync On
Frame Rate Limit 50% Monitor Refresh Rate
DX12
Ultra Settings

My 10900K system runs the sim very smooth in DX12 with no stuttering. I do experience moderate terrain pop-in and mountain morphing from time to time.

My 13900K system is very stuttery in DX12. In DX11 the stutters improve slightly, however I experience periodic long freezes of a few seconds. The rendering of terrain is an improvement with less pop-in and morphing.

Im baffled as to why the 10900K system is smoother than the 13900K system. I have tried many different settings combinations, clean installs of graphic driver versions, but I can’t seem to rid the stutters on the new system.

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if you can not find out, with all the informations you have, while sitting directly in front of your PC, while you checked ā€œmany thingsā€, etc… how should we imageing with the given informations what the problem of your new system is ?

Recommendation: let run some performance test tools and compare the results and ensure in that way, that there is not a generall problem with your new pc ( hardware, e.g temps, or a setting ).
Check the mainboard drivers and all that stuff, I know as own experiance that some z790 are electro-waste , nothing else. Also have an eye on the 990 firmware, there was a horrible bug. And I cant never understand why users disable HT. Otherwise million possible reasons…

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For testing purpose turn of HAGS, Game mode, Xbox game bar, Core isolation.

Restart PC

Ill try that thanks.

Thank you for your useful insight. Users disable HT because it has no benefit in flight sim with modern multicore processors.

Hi, I experienced exactly what you describe, too. Especially when flying in VR. It took me months to find out, that lowering MSFS to low in the process priority (task manager) gets rid of the stuttering issues after the hardware upgrade.

Please don’t ask why setting the process priority to low helps, but in my case it solved all of my problems.

Iā€˜m using Windows 11, latest Nvidia drivers (overlay disabled), HAGS off, gamemode in W11 off, ultra settings in MSFS, no FPS limit in NVCP or in game.

Hope it works for you, too!

In my case the priority was reset to high automatically for some reason while MSFS was running. That’s why I now use process lasso.

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Thank you, I’ll try this.

Classic symptoms indicating your overclocked 4090 is too powerful for your cpu (or any cpu) at 4k. Things that may help -

Increasing resolution/ renderscale (if using DLSS then use DLAA with it)
Maximising gpu intensive settings
Decreasing cpu intensive settings (T-LOD, traffic)
Multimonitor
Hi end VR

but it has no disadvantages, so it can be stay enabled and so the virt. cores are there if they are needed. Performance lost because of the little overhead of HT managment is long ago. More complex is in meanwhile the P- vs E-core management. I have no issue with my system with same CPU - more in contrast of that the sim runs much smoother compared to my old CPU ( an i7-8700K ). Therefore the recommendation for let run a perf-test/stress-tool.

I have a very similar setup and it’s silky smooth, so I’d guess it might be due to ā€œover-tweaking.ā€

Turn on Hyperthreading.
Turn off VSync
Turn off the frame rate limiter – you’re on a 4090 that can maintain over 100 fps with frame doubling at 4K with details cranked, don’t limit your FR. Wonder if that might be affecting your refreshes?

I spent last night and my day off today doing a clean Win 11 install, updating drivers, ME and BIOS to 0904. I just finished a clean install of MSFS and so far, so good. I’m getting very smooth performance in DX12 with no stutters or pop-in. I must have screwed something up with my previous build that was translating to the sim.

I’ll update after I’ve had an opportunity to put in some more time. Thank you all for your advice.

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Are you sure the DDR5 is REALLY running at 6400? AFAIK, no mainboards are currently capable of running 4 sticks (64 gb) of DDR5 at the XMP speeds. (or really anything above the base memory speed)

You can do two-stick 64Gb; that’s what I’m running.

Yes at XMP. Model F5-6400J3239G32GX2-TZ5RK. It’s on the memory QVL for the ROG Maximus Z790 Hero.