Hi, I’m having a persistent issue with the any Wilga on Xbox Series X (MSFS 2024).
The aircraft has a constant right roll bias: the right wing always drops, even with zero wind and neutral controls. If I roll left manually and release controls, the aircraft immediately returns to a right bank and starts turning.
This did not happen before. The issue appeared after installing the Wilga Metal Livery addon (now removed). Reinstalling the sim, clearing cache, new control profiles, trim reset, etc. did not help. Other aircraft behave normally.
Important detail: briefly engaging the autopilot temporarily fixes the problem, which suggests a persistent roll/bank state that is not being reset on spawn (possibly cloud-saved on Xbox).
Is this a known issue, or is there a way to force a full aircraft state reset on Xbox?
That’s how aircraft work.
Why does this not happen in other aircraft, and why was the Wilga behaving normally before?
Why does engaging and then disengaging the autopilot immediately remove the roll tendency?
This suggests that some roll or bank state is being incorrectly initialized or persistently saved for this aircraft, and that the autopilot temporarily resets or overrides it.
All single-prop aircraft behave exactly like this; it is just physics, unavoidable. And if this did not happen before, you were using less realistic settings.
If you set the AP, it will trim out these effects; when you switch the AP off, those trim settings remain. This is NOT a correct procedure, btw. You trim manually before setting the AP.
Just fly the aircraft as intended. Counter the turning effect during take-off with rudder on the ground and aileron input after you lift off. After you throttle down for level flight, use the trim to remove rudder and stick forces.
Mathijs
I can’t find the rudder trim in this aircraft, so I can’t set it on the ground.
I noticed that in one model of the 80, when I engage the autopilot, it already has +1R bank assigned.
It looks like this default setting has somehow carried over to the other aircraft.
This is not a propeller effect — it’s like someone is sitting on the wing.
Also a side note, the wilgas engine rotates counter clockwise (when viewed from the cockpit) so all the left turning tendencies now are right turning so rolling right is correct behavior.
Does this happen in cruise flight? When I fly the TBM I need right aileron trim and right rudder trim on takeoff and landings to help counter act the forces. But in cruise they’re all pretty much centered
It’s not just during takeoff. The aircraft keeps turning to the right, like someone is sitting on the wing.
I can’t even release the controls for a moment. When I bank hard to the left, it quickly returns to the right.
If this were a p-factor issue, I don’t understand why engaging the autopilot and leveling it, then disconnecting the autopilot, fixes everything — it flies perfectly straight, just like it should.
This was the response I got from the developers of the Wilga when I asked about its right turning/banking tendencies last year:
“Wilga’s propeller rotates CCW giving it a CW torque. That’s all really. Other than that it’s just dealing with torque induced roll tendencies as per normal at a given speed. Can trim, can use fuel balance. Or use the Flight Director to simply keep’er straight on a longer flight 
”
As for the AP behavior after being disabled, my only guess is that because the Wilga doesn’t actually have one, it was shoehorned in as an accessibility feature, more or less, and brings with it some quirks. Maybe disabling the AP doesn’t disable some very strong yaw damper effect which removes the adverse yaw, and even bank?
With the autopilot, if I turn it on in flight and stabilize the level, then after turning the AP off the plane doesn’t drift anymore and just flies straight. That’s why I suspect it’s some kind of bug
I think the part where it “just flies straight” is the bug - like I said, maybe some yaw damper remains on in the background, not sure. But it sounds like from everything I’m reading, a pretty good amount of torque induced roll/yaw is expected with this engine/airframe combo, and it just simply must be handflown.
If this torque is really that strong and implemented somehow by the autopilot, which cancels it when engaged, then the plane in that flight condition is unplayable. I’m convinced that when I flew a few weeks ago, such a strong effect wasn’t present
Can you record a video showing your issue? Trim settings etc.
Edit: so if you take off, turn on the autopilot wait a few seconds then turn it off it’s fine for the rest of the flight being hand flown?
I don’t think anyone is claiming the force is implemented by the autopilot - the opposite, actually. It’s being corrected by the autopilot, even when disengaged, which is unrealistic behavior obviously.
The aircraft has flown that way for me since purchasing it, as has it flown for everyone I’ve spoken to - especially because I also thought its behavior was a bug until it was explained that it is very much not.
It’s not meant to be a set-and-forget GA cruiser, it’s a rough and dirty, hands-on bush plane.
The Wilga has no aileron/rudder trim modeled, though it is functional under-the-hood, so if you have bindings for it you can use it, but you won’t be able to see any instrumentation indicating its status/position.
Yes, if I engage the autopilot, level the aircraft, and then disconnect the AP, the rest of the flight is nice and straight. If I don’t do that, I have to hold the stick deflected by about 3–4 centimeters to keep it flying straight. Will try some video later
Isn’t there usually a speed where, depending on how the trim tab is set, the plane will fly straight, and level? But apply more throttle, and the plane will start to roll. I didn’t know the Wilga had a CCW prop. Is that the only one in the sim? I can’t think of any plane I have that has right turning tendencies. It’s cool that they did that.
This is almost certainly what is going on.
Yea those Soviet radials spin opposite our conventional pistons. Sukhoi, Yak, Wilgas all spin CCW when viewed from the cockpit. A friend of mine used to have a Sukhoi 29. Built like a tank, 355hp radial swinging a 8ft 3-blade prop… It had a lot of right turning tendencies
sadly not every dev knows this. some keep the western way of rotation. hell I have even had A&P instructors tell me all aircraft engines rotate the same way and I had to bring up Yaks (have worked on a few Yaks) and some multi engines.
