Wind and turbulence in the Career Mode is ridiculous

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:
Wind and turbulence in the Career Mode are almost always extreme.
I just had an over-the-top extreme wind condition that literally flipped my Cessna 172 forward nose down after landing and trying to exit the runway at slow speed, causing it to be counted as crashed. And no, this is not one of those ‘high difficulty’ missions with red markings, as I had intentionally avoided those.
It also makes me wonder how out of the worldly extreme the weather conditions will be in those red marked missions…

Provide specific location or coordinates:
Everywhere in career mode, but this particular time is LFOC to EGHJ

Provide time and date of the observed weather issue:
Career live weather sometime between 1-2 hours from posting this post.

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?
No mods/addons installed.

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?
Almost every time, but his time is over the top extreme that it is impossible for any one no matter how skilled to finish the mission.

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:
Just take on some career missions after passing Instrument Rating and is not those scripted one with golden marks, and see yourself.

YOUR SETTINGS

If the issue still occurs with no mods and add-ons, please continue to report your issue. If not, please move this post to the User Support Hub.

What peripherals are you using, if relevant:
not relevant

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?
No

[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?
Desktop RTX 4070

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?
Not relevant

MEDIA

Please add a screenshot or video of the issue occurring.
Your game is so eager to jump to the “crashed” tab that I didn’t have the time to record anything.

Update: I have just tried another mission that starts near the LFOC, and got an even worse result, I literally cannot leave my parking spot at the beginning of the quest, as the extreme wind is blowing my 172 backward, and I can just manage to stay still by pushing my throttle to max. (and not this is still not a red marked mission)
And this time I recorded a video as I was prepared for it : clip_1,732,382,782,636.mp4

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• I posted about this separately, in regards to an increased turbulence experience in general…

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There is no in Cloud Turbulence even in free flight. I flew straight through a Towering CU and a CB an not one iota of Turbulence. As an airline pilot, as soon as you enter a cloud there is some turbulence felt. Rushed job

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This is extremely game-breaking and needs to be addressed immediately. if you Asobo guys cannot fix the weather in career mode very soon. What about having the locked turbulence option in career mode changed to ‘low’ instead of ‘realistic’ as a temporary measure?

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• missione cominciata normalmente, seguendo la check list per avviare l’aereo,poi il boarding dei passeggeri e le rpocedure di rullaggio,partenza ed infine attivazione autopilota,fino a raggiungere quota di crocera(nel primo tentativo 16000 piedi di default, e nel secondo tentativo a 10000 piedi ,altitudine in questo caso cambiata tramite tablet in game)
Volo proseguito senza intoppi fino al problema che ho descritto qui di seguito

Meteo realistico

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Ho gli stessi problemi e anche altri, ho notato che in modalità carriera con le missioni di trasporto vip che hanno una ricompensa superiore ai 10000 crediti (missioni non contrassegnate col bollino rosso) quando arrivo in prossimità dell’aeroporto di arrivo (ero a 10000 piedi) il motore dell’aereo si spegne sempre (è la quarta missione che ciò succede) e subito dopo iniziano violentissime scariche di vento che nel mio ultimo tentativo poco fa mi hanno scagliato da 10000 piedi a 3000 in pochi secondi ,tanto che la simulazione si è fermata(fallita) per eccessivo stress sull’aereo mobile,in altri casi mi ha direttamente fatto schiantare senza che potessi fare alcunché,poi anche l’atc in queste circostanze non risponde alle mie comunicazioni rimanendo in silenzio ( ad esempio per contattare la torre per l’avvicinamento)

in tutti questi casi non ho potuto registrare screenshot per via della rapidità del problema

Il vento nelle missioni è in generale sempre molto forte anche in condizioni normali, tanto che è quasi impossibile completare missioni con aviazione generale in cui si richiede di attraversare grandi catene montuose come le alpi per via dei venti eccessivi

Gioco su pc , msfs2024 da Microsoft store ,senza mod, settaggi grafici medi, scheda grafica rtx 3060, processore ryzen9 3900x, 32gb ram

In generale il gioco al 90% dei casi resta sui 60fps

Orario (circa) 1:15 ore italiane del 24 novembre

Ah nell’ultima missione ( per il quale sono qui a scrivere c’era anche un altro Bug,uno dei passeggeri era seduto a testa in giù fuori dall’ aereo, abbastanza esilarante in effetti heheh

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Cannot emulate. I will admit I only did a few missions but,
The missions I tried have at worst light to moderate turbulence. So, completely normal for many real world flights depending on where you are in the world and when and where you fly.

Heck, I try to get FS to have heavy turbulence and just cannot get it. They did say they didn’t want realism in this area because people wouldn’t believe them…

My assumption is Asobo wanted something with a little realism and a little challenge. The “challenge” is not to fly too fast for the conditions and over G the aircraft. This is a sim so it should be expected…

If you use a keyboard then controllability may is probably very difficult. Though I have seen some keyboard flyers that do a stunning job so not sure.

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• Yes. Select any mission with the C172 or G36. Follow the initial steps to takeoff. Take note of the wind direction on the G1000 PFD (general direction as the windicator will be all over the place). Fly perpendicular to the wind direction (crosswind).

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• I’ve only flown the C172 and G36 in missions. Every mission has wild wind and turbulence. The plane constantly yaws violently left and right, like someone is pretending the rudder pedals are a bicycle. The windicator on the G1000 PFD is irratic, almost like it’s picking a random number 60 times per second and displaying it.

This isn’t specific to missions, either. It also occurs in Free Flight if “Realistic” turbulence is enabled.

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I’ve been stuck on my VERY FIRST mission in career mode, because every time I approached the airport on the downwind, my C172 would suddenly start screaming straight up at over 4,000fpm. After going nuts and trying it over and over, and thinking this was a simulation bug, I finally realize THIS is why. The winds are absolutely OBSCENE with over 50knot crosswinds, and over 70 knots tail wind. For my very first flight in a C172?!

I was really looking forward to career mode but this very first mission is practically impossible. I’ve tried over a dozen times and literally can NOT get the plane on the ground.

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Honestly I think it’s just luck of the mission generator gods. I’m happy you haven’t gotten a whacko mission but my very first mission, as explained above, has insane winds. Not a “skill” issue when you are being asked to fly a C172 in 70knot tailwinds and 50 know crosswinds. Maybe if I had better skills I could do a better job, but that’s just insane and well above what the aircraft is even rated for.

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• Turbulence over land is insane. Way too much. So much so that I lose points in cargo integrity over the mission.

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• I’d got the same in italy on moutain, and after 19 plane crash, my reputation go down to D level (i was A level before) so until microsoft solve the problem i’m sory but i STOP to plays a lot of time for this.
i’ll must reset my acount to retar at 0.
an airport had wind on my back and i’m commin in at 120 knot sometime in red with dammage !!!
Another in scisile is made in grass but realy too short for the 172
Another one when i star on ground, there is a wall 1 m in front when i try to turn BOUM an one more crash.
It is impossible to play with that stupid conditions.
And difficult to have capture because the mission is not playable after i finish it so …

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• And they tell that is 1 star, very easy job lol

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I had a number of dirt landings where on final turbulence was so high the plane sometimes pitched down ro up a full 40 degrees, and sometimes almost dipped into a full 90 degree bank only 30 50 feet from the ground.

I landed on one wheel many times where the plane almost wing strikes because the the wind was gusting with insane frequency and violence.

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I don’t think one star difficulty should be gusting like this - they need to tie weather/gusting to the difficulty level.

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Crashes on runway from wind alone. Only possible to do Viking Air Ltd. flights for cargo, which ALL mostly crash without any input after releasing brakes.

Back to minecraft again, maybe not buying the better versions as long as this stands.

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I think I was landing in 30 kt cross winds today on a cargo flight, and my plane nearly ran out of fuel due to significant cross winds in flight…

Getting very tired of incorrect runway selections for the wind as well.

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Got 30G45 Crosswind at landing for a C172 today… this is rediculus. I´ll would never fly a C172 in such conditions in the real world (I am a private pilot)…

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I believe you need to pass some certification, and before that the turbulence option is invisibly fixed to low. As my early few career missions are also extremely calm.
Also, all of those certification exam missions, and those ‘first timer’ missions with golden marks are pre-scripted with proper weather, so those do not count either.

And last but not least. Some challenge is certainly welcomed. But not being able to leave your parking spot, or getting flipped over on hold-short by some tropical cyclone-level of winds in France and UK is not called a challenge, it is game-breaking.
Not even mentioning what Asobo aimed for career mode is clearly a mode where players doing day to day regular grind. And even if there are tropical cyclone-level of super winds happening all the time in the entire Europe due to climate change or something, it should not be represented in the career server, at least not in a 1:1 ratio.

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Just finished a flight with the Vision Jet.
Had 68kt quartering headwind at 2000ft on approach.

They need to tone down the wind. Nobody goes flying in that kind of weather.

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personally 0 Career mode should just use Real Weather data - random weather has never been good - in any version of FS since the 90s.

Using only real weather would be more immersive for career mode.

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