It was in response to the statement ‘If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.’ My point was that if everyone adopted that motto, noting would ever improve. Such as TV developing from B&W to colour. I trust that has cleared it up for you.
If the issue was at all as bad as many are making it out to be I don’t notice it and FS still operated at 4K ultra, 60FPS even though it doesn’t need to. Also, this issue has already been patched by Microsoft and if AMD needs to do one it will be with us all shortly. You can dial down the hyperbole now, if you so choose.
For my part, I’d like to upgrade, but I think I will give it some time, probably next year at some point. MSFS has run really well for me and I have been very fortunate to not have many of the issues plaguing some users. I’d like to keep it that way as long as possible. But I’d also like to update to the latest and greatest, so I’m a little bit torn. I’ve also got to enable TBM or whatever, and while everything I’ve seen about enabling it seems straightforward, it makes me nervous for some reason.
I don’t understand why people are upgrading to W11 if they intend to use MSFS.
I understand it’s working fine for some folks, but Asobo/MS has not officially come out with any statement that W11 will support MSFS.
These are some of the reasons people run into issues and then are trashing the forums and Asobo for the sim not running correctly or having CTD’s.
Well, it was featured in the official announcement video
More seriously, many of us here are pretty tech-savvy and are comfortable switching back and forward as required, so it’s no big thing. From my own perspective, the prospect of one of Microsoft’s most premium, first-party applications not being officially supported on Windows 11 is pretty unlikely!
This is definitely one of those areas that Asobo might not be entirely comfortable with, but head-office will be pretty clear upon - it must work in Windows 11! (and, to be fair to them, does appear to pretty flawlessly)
Been using W11 since beta and MSFS has run absolutely fine the whole time.
Win 11 is working more than fine. Especially after the recent update from the insider beta version. Sim is much smoother for me now with ultra and high settings in 4K. Better than ever before and looks amazing.
Interestingly, I’ve just got around to benchmarking after my Win 11 update, and my own system CPU benchmarks a little bit quicker with Win 11, compared to Win 10:
Cinebench R23 (multi/single):
Win10: 11159/1454
Win11: 11174/1490
(B550, Ryzen 5600x, 32GB 3600MHz DDR4. Both results taken with the same BIOS setup, with identical, modest - but stable - overclock. Windows 11 10.0.22000)
So despite the hysteria in the video linked above, I would suggest that whatever latency bug exists with Windows 11 + AMD today, isn’t the same on every system. And who knows - maybe it will get better when the beta fix is finally released!
Anyone else with AMD systems willing to chuck some numbers into the mix? Facts > hysteria!
It’s only affecting 2000 series AMD … Jay only mentions this once real quick like everyone else and then just says AMD AMD AMD after, very click baity of Jay.
This is a really important bit that he barely called out in the video. Most users with more recent CPUs won’t even see the bug.
Edit:
Have just repeated the Cinebench R23 benchmark with build 22000.282 which has the supposed fix for this AMD latency issue:
Single core: 1490
Multi-core: 11382
So virtually the same. Suits me
I have redact that as AIDA64 benches do show some issues with all L3’s but in FPS testing much of it is negligible +/- 1-2 FPS even compared directly with Intel CPUs
Of course it supports MSFS, it’s called Microsoft Flight Simulator and Microsoft make windows… Come on people, let’s not go too far down the rabbit hole.
Hmm, this is what I saw after the SU6 update:
W11 now officially supported? Do I dare?
Aha, I see, they are providing us with means to crash Windows 11
Nice livery
When updating to W11, should I do a fresh install of MSFS after updating or just cross it over with W11 update?
I would recommend a fresh install of W11 and a Fresh install of MSFS
I did the direct upgrade from Win10 to Win11. No problem as of now. Didn’t see any performance hit either. Running with VBS on.
I would recommend neither of these things, unless you are having specific issues that you can’t resolve any other way.
Win11 update took less than 5 minutes out of my day. That’ll do nicely, thanks.
For those who upgraded to Windows 11 with AMD systems:
AMD released today new chipset drivers to fix the “UEFI CPPC2” performance issues