Would this computer be good for FS?

I’m new to gaming computers and I’m interested to know if the following computer (which I’m considering buying) would be just ‘good’ or ‘great’ for MFS. Are there any upgrades to this puter you would recommend (money is not unlimited). :slight_smile:

[Alienware Aurora R11 Gaming Desktop]

  • 10th Gen Intel® Core™ i7 Processor
  • Windows 10 Home
  • NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3080
  • 256GB Solid State Drive + 2TB Hard Drive
  • 16GB HyperX™ FURY DDR4

Featuring a Nvidia® GeForce RTX™ 3080 graphics card powered by Ampere, Nvidia’s 2nd gen RTX architecture, with enhanced RT Cores & Tensor Cores, new streaming multiprocessors & GDDR6X memory.

No. You need a bigger SSD and more ram. If your getting a 3080 I would also go with an i9 or even better get a new ryzen 9 5800x or 5900x if you can find one. Honestly I wouldn’t go with a Dell computer but that part is up to you. Hard to find a 3080 many places right now. Dell is overpriced and you mentioned money is not unlimited so there are a lot of better places to get a pre-built.

ABS Gladiator Gaming PC - Intel i9 10850K - ASUS TUF GeForce RTX 3080 OC 10GB - G.Skill TridentZ RGB 32GB DDR4 3200MHz - 1TB Intel M.2 NVMe SSD - RGB AIO 240MM - Newegg.com

You don’t need a massive amount of cores/threads for MSFS. Those sort of CPU’s are better suited for productivity stuff like rendering or video editing.

a Ryzen 5600X will do more than fine, the extra cores/threads on the 5800X or 5900X are basically wasted here.
Same as the i9. You don’t need all those cores, just make sure you have 6 cores / 12 threads (or at the absolute bare minimum 4 cores / 8 threads) you’ll be fine CPU wise.

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Yea if your going to drop this amount of money on a brand new PC you might as well get the extra cores. In the future MSFS may get updates where more cores are beneficial plus you may decide you want to do something with your PC that is not flight sim. Plus the link I shared is comparable in price to the Alienware so why spend the same amount of money and get less hardware. If OP is willing to spend the money he might as well get the best hardware he can for the money imo.

Your first mistake is buying an Alienware. The Aurora series have been plagued with overheating issues plus the components they use are complete trash and overpriced. The best option is to build your own and if you don’t know how, watch YouTube. If you’re dead set on pre-built go with a cheaper, more reputable brand such as iBuyPower. Get a bigger SSD like 2TB minimum, and no less than 32GB of RAM. Also, look at the AMD GPU’s, I think you’ll find that for the price, they offer more bang for your buck. You don’t have to spend an arm and leg to get a top notch PC for MSFS 2020.

Thanks for your answers. I’m in Canada and Dell computer I posted is currently selling for the equivalent of $1770 (US) which I think is a pretty good deal. if you know of better deals than that please keep posting them.

Going to an I9 gets pretty pricey but more ram and liquid cooled would be essential upgrades, yes?

Doess AMD or Intel have an advantage over one another for MFS? Thanks!!

As an example, how would this unit compare, it’s $1540 US:
[Alienware Aurora R10 Ryzen™ Edition Gaming Desktop]

  • AMD Ryzen™ 7 3700X Processor
  • Windows 10 Home
  • NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3070
  • 512GB Solid State Drive + 1TB Hard Drive
  • 16GB Dual Channel HyperX™ FURY
    (I’ve been reading that the only way to get a deal on the new graphics cards is to buy a prebuilt)

Yea I like this setup here a lot better. I’m just in the camp if your buying the best graphics cards (RTX 3080/90) then you should be pairing them with the best processors.

I think an even better processor (if you can get it) would be the 5600X paired with an RTX 3070. Even going AMD with the graphics (again if you can find it) would be a good setup.

Also I don’t think you will want to go any less than 32GB for your setup. $1770 for that first system you posted is actually a really good deal though. Maybe it is possible to tweak it a little to get you 32GB of ram at least and I’d shoot for at least a 500GB SSD for your boot drive and have MSFS installed on it.

Edit: Actually the more I think about it that first one you posted if it is $1770 USD on sale I would definitely get that. You can pay for another 16GB stick of ram and pop it in there. Later down the road you can upgrade the processor and SSD if you become more comfortable upgrading your own computer. (Or take to someone who can do it for you.) Check the motherboard that comes with it though and look at expansion slots for extra SSD’s and check what chipset it is running.

The real question is MSFS2020 good enough? Way too many issues, no mater how good or average is your machine, not ready for prime time, just read the issues with it.

Workable,

Don’t be too fast to discount Alienware. The purists and pros don’t like them because they believe they can do better…and perhaps they can. But for a beginner I think it’s better to get a complete package out of the box that comes, in the case of Alienware, with a one year in-home warranty if something goes wrong. I was in the same spot as you a few years ago and decided to go the Alienware route.

Firstly, they have great sales from time to time if you watch for them…the machine you’re looking at is an example. When I bought the first one, I couldn’t buy the parts and assemble it myself for the sale price they were asking. So if you look for the sales you’ll do OK. I wouldn’t buy one at their list price.

Secondly, I had always been a Mac guy and didn’t know much about PC’s, windows, etc. I liked the idea of having tech support if I needed it.

I have two of these things now…the original R6 7700k/1080ti/16mb and an R8 9900k/2080ti/32mb. The first one did arrive with a motherboard glitch, but after checking it out with tech support, they sent a guy over and replace the board at my home in accordance with the warranty. The second one has run flawlessly since new.

So…should you buy one now? The first compelling reason might be that it’s the only way you’ll get a 3080 any time soon! And…it’s Black Friday season and the prices are good…hundreds off list price on some models.

Things to be aware of:

  • these things are very picky about memory upgrades. You have to closely match what is already installed. I would go with their 32mb upgrade…it’s only $150 or $200 and you know it will work.

  • storage updates are pretty easy. My R8 has a 512nvme boot drive, 2x1TB sata SSD’s in raid 0, a 2TB Nvme SSD on a pcie card and a 2TB hybrid spinning drive.

  • don’t think either of my machines would take a 3080, either due to the power supply (850w should be enough, but you never know) and due to the cooling. The cases are designed to manage the heat of their standard configurations at the time and there aren’t a lot of options to increase it (add fans etc.). Obviously they’ve made some mods to the R11 to cool the 3080. So these are not a good choice if you think you might become a mad over-clocker some day.

With the machine you’ve described…I would go up to the 1TB boot drive or at least 512, delete the HDD (you can buy these for peanuts these days), increase the memory to the 32mb dual channel option. At the Dell site, click on the options that they are allowing for the machine and have a look at the updates you might want.

Once you know what you want…either click on the annoying “how can I help you” thingy or call them. Tell them you like the machine and the discount and ask if you can make changes to the config without losing the discount. If so, spec it out like you want and click the “empty my wallet” button. They may try to steer you away from modifying the sale machine, but just keep insisting that that’s what you want and if you can’t get it you’ll go away. In my case, this took some minutes and some “sales agent consulting somebody pauses”, but eventually got the machine I wanted and retained the $900 discount. Who knew buying a 'puter could be like buying a car!

Final thoughts: I don’t think buying a prebuild is necessarily a bad thing, especially if you’re a newby in the PC world. My experience with Alienware has been pretty good and when the time comes I’ll certainly consider buying another. If you’re a flaming-haired overclocker and massive tinkerer…these aren’t the machines for you. If you just want a reliable machine to FLY…then worth considering.

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Cheers