2024 Career Mode

Read the last point guys - wow, I wonder how much?

So basically take a look at FSE and build that into MSFS as a career mode. :smiley:

I have tried the career mode, suffered through the unexplainable things and finally said, buh bye to that and went back to using FSE with MSFS.

I would have actually liked to go alway from that external program since it does require it own data shuffler and FSUIPC to link to the sim and what ever else. I now use SpadNxt for the control setup since MSFS can’t seem to get that sorted and stable, so that and FSUIPC have to play along.

All of that needs to be started and configured, when all I wanted to do was to have a little purpose and challenge added to MSFS.

1 Like

Yes, something more like FSE would be great. The sim could take a similar concept and expand upon it. But they went in a different direction that just doesn’t seem like it was tested well enough to get the critical feedback it needed before it was rolled out. And why it’s so walled-off, I don’t know. There’s literally no interaction or competition, so who cares how we decide to interact and what kind of advantages or disadvantages we have?

But if you start with the premise that we have to have our hands held throughout an overly complex environment, then it becomes super dependent on itself. Meanwhile we receive penalization for (poorly judged) errors, are given only very basic training (and omission of several crucial concepts), and have to deal with all the other bugs and foibles, so it kind of fails to meet that premise before it ever gets off the ground. If they had started with a more open premise and introduced (optional) complexity (and perhaps reward for that) as it went along, it could have been a lot more engaging.

2 Likes

What is FSE?

Also, I have seen in changelog that the Taxi penalty only starts at 30kts now instead of 20

FSEconomy. It’s old, but it’s probably the benchmark for how a large career mode/multiplayer economy should work.

1 Like

FS Economy. It’s a third-party program, a “career mode” that is dependent on interaction with others (literally an economy) and has been around for 20-ish years. It has its flaws as well, but it runs on a very thin client that is entirely cross-platform. So it doesn’t need anything from any sim other than your aircraft type, location, fuel usage, whether a crash was detected by the sim, whether the engine is running, and whether the parking brake is set. Basics. It doesn’t care how you fly, what you fly (as long as it’s available and has capacity), or the weather, or the time of day. If you stop somewhere that’s not your destination, it gives you a set amount of time to continue (while still recording the aircraft location and fuel state).

If the sim had started career mode from basics like that, it would have had a leg up due to several factors that FSE (amongst other similar programs) have trouble adapting to. Most importantly, just being contained within the sim and not needing a third-party to host it.

The complexity and parameterization of MSFS 2024 career mode is what’s hamstringing it. Hard to unfurl all that to just get it to an acceptable place.

1 Like

Yes, I would like that part, interaction with others.

1 full year of no heavy certificate barely any communication apart from prematurely saying it’s ready twice

One of the best.

Not even excited anymore, if we have to free flight back to 2020

1 Like

Where was this shared? Not that I don’t believe you, but I’d like to share a link directly to it rather than just a screenshot.

1 Like

Some new aircraft fixes are still being posted including the A310 for career mode. That’s something at least if it’s true

1 Like
2 Likes

What.a.joke // Now, understand this was the type of flying I was HOPING to (get to do) on Day 1 of this title’s release - so this news is laughable. I am a hardcore Career Mode user, no skips ever - so watching the evolution of Career Mode from this desperate thing called MSFS 2024 has been hard to watch.

1 Like

Recall when Jorg said only 50% of user, utilize Career Mode…gee, I wonder why.

1 Like

My Personal Comment & Observation
Well, in my case, I have no interest in it & am more than happy to fly almost exclusively in free-flight with a brief foray into world photographer & the various activities & challenges from time to time.

Career-Mode seems more like “Airline Manager” to me, based on all the work you folks appear to have to do to keep all your purchased airliners in tip-top shape! :grin:

2 Likes

50% is alot

And that was when everyone was loving things, now after all the bugs and career mode issues that number is much much less I guarantee it.

There will be a new wave of Sony career mode enthusiasts whom are about to embark on the same trajectory of hype, honeymoon and then disappointment that we all have for the passed year

What airline manager the heavys are locked it’s actually more GA manager than anything else

1 Like

Not sure I follow this at all - career mode still has many issues but it has improved substantially when compared to launch or the initial several months after release.

If anything, I would expect the mode has gained in popularity, not weaned.

1 Like

Last week and thus probably in current build

It has improved in some areas and not in others, the punish is still there and the spike of Sony users happening now until they receive the below and come on here and rant and go back to free flight

1 Like

Now I have a BIG moan to shout about

How can a 2nd hand 737 cost almost the same as a brand new 99,000,000cr 737.

Cr 98,960,400 SOMEBODY is having a laugh!!!

1 Like