I would love to see some curated and random missions pop up as options on the free flight map so that when I’m looking for somewhere to fly from or to they would be there as options as well. Along with the photography objectives and stuff, it would be nice if all the activities were accessible right from free flight.
I was initially excited for career mode but after giving it a try I realized that I have neither the free time nor the desire to fly Lisa and Lisa around in a Cessna 172 for hours on end just to get to the missions that I’m actually interested in trying. I also have no interest in managing companies and the progression isn’t really appealing either, I just want more reasons to fly and for the flights that I do to be more engaging.
The fact the “Commercial Pilot License - Rotorcraft” is just out of reach from your starting funds is particularly painful. I’ve also watched YouTubers get completely lost and confused as to how they can take the CPL-Rotorcraft: not realising that although it looks like you can take the CPL-Rotorcraft after your PPL, you cannot: you must take CPL-Airplane first and grind in a Cessna for the funds. Some have even complained that the game is bugged because of it: not surprising, it’s giving you a choice you cannot actually take.
Voted for this as well.
One huge, very important issue I’ve not seen anybody bring up yet:
Missions being locked behind career makes them regionally location bound.
Tired of your usual career locations and want to go fly rescue missions in New Zealand for a change? Or medical transport in, let’s say, Ghana? “Well too bad, you haven’t been to NZ or Ghana in your career yet, no can do!”
Where you’ve chosen your HQ to be, areas where you’ve flown to before and where the first missions of each new type take place make up the artificial jail in which the sim keeps you locked in. You are forced to painfully slowly make your way to all 195 countries on earth, and all their regions, to gain the right to fly missions anywhere you want.
Due to confining missions within career mode, MSFS 2024 deliberately limits where pilots can enjoy their favorite mission activities, even though it is capable of spawning them almost anywhere.
Remember when they first revealed the video snippet of the globe with mission markers all over it? What we got instead is a highly locked-down-behind-a-grind version of this. Absolutely not what I envisioned when I first heard of the phenomenal mission generation capabilities of MSFS 2024. Wasted potential and a massive disappointment. Hopefully I’m not alone with this feeling.
Basically what the title says, I love doing the World Photographer objectives, but I like to do them as part of a complete flight, i.e. starting cold and dark at a nearby airport, flying to the destination, taking photos and then either flying back to my starting point or on to another destination.
World Photographer mode unfortunately doesn’t allow this, the only option is to spawn your plane in the air. However, taking the photos in free flight still counts, which is great, so you can make your photo objective part of a complete flight.
But with how things are set up right now, I have to go into World Photographer mode, make note of where I’m going and what my objectives are, and then go back out to free flight mode and set up my flight. So it would be great if I could just see all the objectives on the free flight map so that I could skip the initial step. It would also be really nice if a list of all objectives could be displayed from a menu during my actual flight so that I could ditch my pen and paper notes and see what objectives I’ve already done, and what other ones might be nearby.
As an alternative, maybe we could have the option to actually start cold and dark from a nearby airport in World Photographer mode, but I would really just prefer it to all be integrated into free flight.
Here’s hoping that new objectives will be a regular part of updates (not that there isn’t enough to keep busy for a while already) as it’s a really fun way to add some purpose to my flights and go to some beautiful places that I wouldn’t have gone otherwise.
So I found a way to do missions without entering career mode through Dev mode and it allows you to do any mission even if u haven’t unlocked them in career mode yet with any selection of plane, but the missions (only tried firefighting as of yet) keep failing (like unknown errors occur before I can even fully load in) but if anyone else can try this and see if it works that would great. to do it just: allow dev mode in advanced options on the general settings, go to the tool’s menu, click “career tool”, then you have to select the plane you want to use and on the second “window” click the blue bar at the top, this will bring up the missions and from there select a mission you want to do. then click start mission.
I was going to open a new wish but luckily found this. Yes please, allow people to fly missions outside of career mode. I waited long time for MSFS 2024 expecting to be able to fly a rescue mission, transport mission, agricultural or firefighting duties, and very happy to see things like Tractor, just to find that they’re only available in career mode.
I’ve been flying for a long time, and I simply don’t have the time to engage in career mode. Turns out that if I don’t have the time, half of the sim is unavailable for some impossible to understand reason. It’s like releasing a glider but allowing to fly it after a 50hs sim course… I mean come one, it’s not reasonable.
I can’t just quit my job to dedicate 6hs per day to fly career mode and then be able to fly a mission, unless MSFS agrees to pay me a salary (I’m open to offers of course).
It feels like the starting sequence should have a disclaimer “You’ll never play these missions”. It is great that MSFS has a career mode. However I think that imho 1) The missions should be accessible outside of career mode. 2) You should be able to jump into career mode at any stage (e.g. starting with the rotorcraft certifications. 3) Once you have a certification it should be kept on your profile. 4) Money should be optional. 5) The proper career mode could be kept as it is (with some sort of a marker showing that the career mode that you didn’t start the career mode from the beginning, or that you disabled the economy.)
We already bought the game once, the opportunity to buy in-game credits for it is as well just insulting. imho.
edit: Okay, tried getting to the point where I could start (and attempt) the helicopter CPL and it is only a couple of hours of grinding in a C172 really (and some of that is fun). So, maybe I’ll give it a go. I do think it would be really nice if either the objects used for missions could be opened up to projects like Neofly and/or third party aircraft could work within the MSFS base mission system if the developers followed certain guidelines, please.
And it still seems a bit off to sell credits for real money. Thanks.
Maybe someone will create a custom tool to create dynamic missions like in the career mode (and using the same objects, locations, etc.) but available for free flight and supporting 3rd party aircraft when they come along. I feel like I’d like the sim a lot more then.
Fyi the Career Tool just has one sample of each mission type to verify that they work with a particular aircraft, for the purpose of Devs using it to see if their AC would be compatible.
Me too. The grind in career mode is beyond mind numbing. I just want to search and rescue and firefight. I am TRAPPED behind a grindwall I cannot even guess how many months it will take to get to what I bought the sim for.
I would love to see a Mission Mode in msfs-2024 , separate from ‘Career Mode’ and separate from the ‘Challenge Series’.
My idea of a ‘Mission Mode’ would be very similar to what was in MSFS X and older generations of MSFS where the simulator has a set of crafted missions for you to fly with specific aircraft, paint schemes, and duties to perform for specific people, organizations, and airlines. As opposed to Career Mode where you fly various types of jobs, each one having similar processes and outcomes.
Mission Mode would set itself apart from Career Mode by having different outcomes for the same type of flight. For example, you can have a lot of different types of SAR missions that would have more than one alternative. Developers could craft 20 different SAR missions and each one would feel like a different operation than the last one. The cut scenes and interactions with a specific audience or client is what would create a sense of greater purpose. Previous versions of MSFS did an excellent job with this.
The missions would have dialogue and cutscenes which are specific to the mission itself and are not duplicated in other missions. These would also vary throughout the timeline of the mission.
Some missions would allow you to make a decision on how to proceed in the mission with different alternatives. A pilot may want to complete the mission using one alternative and then re-fly the mission again using a different alternative. For example, a mid-flight event occurs forcing the pilot to make a decision or perform a set of tasks to remedy the situation.
In order to fly some missions, you would need to achieve a certain ranking or prerequisite or certificate(s), similar to Career Mode.
Completing a mission would grant the pilot a reward badge or certificate for that mission and scores can be generated for performance, similar to the existing Career Mode.
I think this type of Mission Mode is what many people thought we were getting when we saw the trailers for MSFS 2024. Instead, we got a Career Mode which offers similar jobs in different locations and is quite generic and repetitive. Career Mode is great and has a purpose in the simulator but a Mission Mode would go inter greater depth and detail to meet a certain, more specific goal for a more specific client.
Agree most of what you write, but I don’t think it will happen, unless they open up the missions to third party devs. Based on what I see in the current missions, I doubt Asobo has the competence, resources, motivation or creativity to implement any of this.
Oh, please, don’t. I’m an adult, let me decide which missions I want to fly.
