I’ve been very silently lurking on these various AMD threads as I plot my way, potentially, from Xbox to PC full-time. I had been thinking I’d jump in as soon as the 7800 is released, but I’m hesitant to take on a technological headache that I spent a lot of money on to invite into my life.
What I have enjoyed about the Xbox (aside from the entry price) is it “just works” and I can sit down and sim without the constant need to fiddle. That is an aspect of my simming experience I would like to maintain.
However, I just cannot see myself building a new PC on last generation’s technology. If I’m going to do this, I want to be moving forward.
fully agree. you should enjoy building a PC otherwise it will be a terrible experience. My previous PC I purchased as HP Omen complete setup, but especially with HP I had bad experience. Now by re-using some components I need to build by myself. I enjoy learning about the new tech and selecting components individually
The MSFS is already installing on my new PC, and being proud to myself as it was working for the first shot, no beep, no error
GPU is not yet decided, I would need to do some more research, but RX 7900 XT sits on the top of my list just a hair above the GTX 4080.
As I see RX 7900 XT has better value: very similar performance, cheaper, FSR is comparable to DLSS, more VRAM. RTX 4080 seems to me a like a golden standard, safe, but pricey solution.
The thing is i want plug n play experience. I am not AMD betatester. Until now i had Intel which was no brainer for gaming without any big issues. AM5 is broken in some cases which are tied to memory etc. Peope who do like tinkering with build instead of playing should buy AM5.
For me there is two options only:
5800x3D with cheap board and 3200 rams and save rest for next batches of boards and later iteration of x3D cpus on AM5. Platform will be more mature and stable. Its just silly right now. Post times around one minute and more
7800x3D with really pricey boards and early adopter issues. Whole platform is twice the cost of AM4 with 5800x3D.
I just asked myself how much valuable is time for me. I value my free time (nights) as dad and husband. AM4 is cheaper, stable and have plenty of power for at least one or two generation and its more console like experience without tinkering.
It’s sometimes easy to get lost in the niceties of tech and lose sight of what really matters. In your case that would be your free time as a dad and husband. Much more important than any ‘stuff’ here.
You’re right in what you say. AM4 is mature, tried and tested and the 5800x3d is a great cpu and right now it’s a fantastic price. It should last you at least a couple of years as well imo.
Totally understand if you decide to make this choice. Right now AM5/DDR5 is nowhere near mature and a lot of issues imo still have to be sorted out
In the last 15 years I had only Intel and Nvidia, yesterday put together my system with the new 5800x3d+cooler, Motherboard and PSU, all the rest I kept from my prev. i7-10700k platform. Win11+MSFS installation went surprisingly smooth, booted up without any issue. The most time was the replacement of the parts and putting together the new system. A good house can help a loooot
Today picked up already the new RX 7900 XT, just finising my coffee and inserting into the PC, so then I am officially shifted to a full AMD platform. So far, so good
There’s no such thing as ‘future proofing’ in the PC world. One generation is replaced by the next, which is replaced by the next, ad infinitum. And the product cycles are getting shorter. Look at the time between Intel’s socket generations:
If you bought an Intel chip and MOBO in 2020, you’d need to buy a new MOBO if you want a Gen 13 Raptor Lake CPU today. Fortunately you can reuse your DDR4 RAM if you want. Not so with AM5 architecture. You’re forced into DDR5. What’s next in 2-3 years? How “obsolete” will the system you buy today be? What price/performance value will you get if you are always seeking the latest and greatest?
If you have a lot of disposable income it doesn’t matter. Most people do not have $2-3K to spend every few years on a PC. I know I don’t.
I’m curious to hear about your experience with the 7900 XT once you’ve played with it for a while. That was my choice for my new AMD build but I heard about some driver issues, so I figured sticking with Nvidia would be less of a headache. Plus it seems MSFS is sort of “partnered” with Nvidia, the way they rolled out DLSS 3 on it at launch, I feel like it gets more attention with drivers. But the AMD cards are SUCH a good value right now.
Its under 290$ in my country. For 4k its really good choice.
I get the folks which went or will go with AM5 because of many reasons. I was sold on 7800x3D before i started my research for good value board and saw full reddit and other forums with posts with problems aroud this platform.
It seems too risky and problematic
At least for me
I am just doing my maiden flight with the full AMD setup, which is:
5800x3d, 32Gb DDR4, RX 7900 XT 20Gb VRAM, 3440x1440.
Graphic setting set to Ultra, no other changes, GPU, CPU out of the box and now I am having fps 50-60.(now in PMDG) Also some micro stutters, but as mention I have not yet set anything, just jumped into the cockpit
For reference, my previous system was i7-10700K, RTX2080S, rest is the same. Here I had HIGH graphic settings and got 30-40fps.
So far impressed, but absolutely unfamiliar with AMD’s adrenalin software, so there is a learning curve to optimize settings.
I am happy with my decision going with AM4 platform, I see myself keeping it for a good 3-4 years.
just a minute after my post the sim crashed due to GPU driver…how ironic
but not judging, I remember I had many crushes with the nvidia platform as well in the early stages, so I am just going to learn a bit the basics what shall I set
Hah what timing! Yeah that’s exactly what scares me away from AMD and I’ve also had my share of crashes with Nvidia as well back in the day, though (knock on wood) gone months now without a CTD. I am not in any hurry so I’ll keep weighing my options and hopefully price comes down in the meantime. 3070 is fine for me on 1440p, but eventually I want a triple screen set up and that’s impossible on this card.
I’ve have had AMD cpu/gpu’s for years and have enjoyed them with rock solid stability. My recommendation with regards to Adrenalin sw is to keep all driver graphics and display setting at their defaults. That way, you only need to adjust your sim settings.
Good thing the thread is about AMD, with a history of long term socket support. You could run 5000 series CPU’s on some boards released in 2017.
I was initially on the 7800x3d boat, as the tinkering and new platform blues didn’t bother me and I wanted a future proofed build. Unfortunately one of my other hobbies reared its expensive head by way of one of my car speakers going out. I use to be big into car audio and have thought about getting a high quality system again already, and maybe this blown speaker is a sign. So now I’m most likely going to grab a 5800x3d and a cheap x570 board, then use the savings on the car audio.
Speakers are made of paper and paper ages. They can be repaired but that’s expensive hand work and you can always find a cheaper alternative. However your actual system if it’s good quality might still work for decades. Emphasis on quality parts as lesser semiconducting elements can dry out quite quickly.
First 24 hours been a bit of a mixed bag
I figured it out the Radeon driver is crashing on navigraph cloud, but found a workaround on the forums to use DX12
At the moment my only issue is a time to time freezing (sticky) mouse coursor, but other than that the system on ultra settings seems to be a beast.
Today there is a huge event on VATSIM, i have not believed my eyes when saw the traffic so put my rig on a test by departing from EGKK. With ultra settings and massive number of multiplayers I had about 30fps on the ground which is very acceptable.
So, with the RX 7900 XT we still continoue to get to know each other…if i would not feel confindent with it during the next weeks I have the possibility to bring it back to the shop and they pay back to me 90%, what would mean I rented the card for 90CHF
Only problem I have with the fresh FS install - but I think it has nothing to do with the GPU- is the default scenery is visible through the addon sceneries what is extremely bad, but on all places…so I keep searching the solution for this
