I see it as aircraft noise. Its perfect. Its win win. 
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I like a quiet computer as itâs located in a lounge room. I havenât killed one yet in over 40 years of running them hot and silent. In fact, two computers I have had in the past I took took the fan off the CPU cooler and let them run at Tjmax and they ran for years like that just fine.
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FYI
MSI released a statement regarding the 9800X3D incidents.
As previously mentioned, likely user error, but itâs good that the board manufacturer is communicating on this.
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This is interesting⊠is was going for the âsweetspotâ ddr 6000. But when I check his results you are better off with ddr 8000âŠ
Thanks for sharing!
I did go with 64gb so more than 6000 is hard to get.
Are you using scaler auto or following Skatterbench guide?
Update for using 2 DDR5 sticks on Expo vs 4 sticks. Using the replay tool for the exact same flight, I noticed nearly 3-5 fps more on average using 4x16gb consistently over 2x16gb (removed A1 and B1). I ran this test multiple times with the same result, so it seems that running 4 sticks is still performing better than 2. Also noticed (as with the Digital Foundry video), when using the replay tool and hiding UI, it did seem to run a higher fps than showing the UI. Not much of a difference, but to me it was more consistent with the video results.
I can see from the screenshot of the FPS overlay that you are testing the maximum FPS with vsync-on. Please disable vsync and test in 2D, DX11, TAA - instead DX12,DLSS.
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Changing to DX11 and TAA, I got these results:
Thanks for the suggestions! For now, I will leave these settings alone and just enjoy the sim. I will add that the newest Nvidia driver produced a lot more stuttering so I rolled it back to 560.81 for now. Runs much smoother in 2D and in VR for me.
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Youâre very welcome.
Fly safe.
@TenPatrol Sorry for the Ping, but you are now my personal Flightsim-PC-Hardware Expert, without even asking you⊠
Nah, sorry, but i would be interested in your opinion:
Im in the Market for a new GPU somewhen, but it has time, lets see what happens over the next few months.
But for now, coming from a x670E MB and 5200MHz 32GB RAM, would it make a difference by upgrading to 6000MHz RAM (you already suggested some), and a new x870E Motherboard. + upgrading the Powersupply from 750w to 1000w in perspective of a new GPU, or would you say its not really worth it to upgrade the MB/RAM immidiately?
Thank you 
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I ran my RAM at the default 5200 for a few months before enabling expo at 6000. I donât have numbers to hand, it was a small uptick in performance, not something Iâd consider it worth the cost of replacing already working RAM but YMMV.
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Thank you so much for your kind words. I donât consider myself an expert, but it truly means a lot to me that you think so.
There wonât be a significant difference between 5200 and 6000 RAM in terms of performance. If you want, you can swap 2x16 GB for 2x32 GB. Upgrading to 64 GB of RAM can have a positive impact on " low FPS" providing smoother gameplay in demanding scenarios.
There isnât a big difference between the X670E and X870E chipsets. The main additions in motherboards with the X870E chipset are support for USB4 and Wi-Fi 7.
If ânew motherboardâ has a better VRM then upgrading it might make sense.
When it comes to the power supply, it is one of the most critical components of the PC, so itâs not something to skimp on. If you plan to get an RTX 4090 or a GPU from the 5000 series, investing in a new 1000W power supply makes sense. Itâs important to ensure that it is ATX 3.0/3.1 âreadyâ and PCIe 5.0/5.1 âreadyâ.
For example MSI PSU often include descriptions like âATX 3.0 compatibleâ and âPCIe 5.0 ready.â Look for the term âATX 3.0 or 3.1 readyâ and âPCIe 5.0
or 5.1 readyâ to ensure you get the most future-proof option.
Example of a PSU that is ATX 3.1 âreadyâ and PCIe 5.1 âreadyâ
- MSI MPG A1000G PCIE5
- MPG A1000G PCIE5 | Power Supply | Overflow With Power
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perfect, thank you so much! Really appreciated. I know some stuff about GPUs/CPUs, but my knowledge is a bit lacking on the ârestâ. LOL
Okey, the current price of the generally known as âBest MB for the 9800X3Dâ according to the intwerwebs, is quite hefty, so i think i will wait if i cant expect substantial performance improvements. I think my x670E is on the better side, its the ASUS TUF x670E-Plus WiFi (i dont need WiFi tho).
I might consider the 2x32GB RAM tho, that would be worth it in the long run anyway, i guess.
And yes, im deffo not gonna cheap out on the PSU, and thanks for the hints about ATX etc. i will have an eye on this. But then i will also waits a bit with that, and then gonna do a âFull Swapâ when the new GPU is decided and prices on x870E MBs have dropped a bit.
I will go for the RAM for now, i need it anyway somewhen, and its easy to change. Then ill do a complete re-build when i swap the GPU.
I want a new case tooâŠ
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I have the same mobo, but if I upgrade to a 9800X3D I have no intention of changing it. Thereâs no way the extra cost will be worth it in the small performance delta from the board.
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In all actuality, there wonât be anything earth shattering moving to X870E. A lot of the upgraded stuff is going to things like ease of use/install features, and aesthetics. Hardware Unboxed has a video testing most X870E mobos and went over things like VRM performance, USB layouts and speeds, and audio quality.
They also have another video comparing X870E to X670E. I havenât watched that one, but it may also be of use to you.
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thank you, ill watch the x870 vs. 670 one, just to have an idea. Yeah, ill stick with mine then, its relatively new anyway⊠thanks guys for saving me some money, lol
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I concur.
There are other smaller changes that are worth mentioning though.
For instance, AFAIK @MSI the X670 Tomahawk had LED error codes whilst the X870 Tomahawk shows digits, which is useful when looking for the root cause of a booting issue. Previously, people had to get the more expensive MSI Carbon to get that on board display.
Also last I checked the X870E Taichi (my favorite) was slightly less expensive than the previous gen X670E Taichi even though it is slightly better.
The following spreadsheet is a good resource for those looking at getting an AM5 Mobo. It lists all the features for all the motherboards on the market and is updated regularly.
Similar spreadsheets do exist for other sockets (Arrow Lake, Raptor Lake, etc).
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As already mentioned donât waste your money on changing the MB youâll likely see little difference. A well thought out B650E MB has similar performance where it matters and a much better price point. The higher end boards are only worth it if you really need the few extra features they provide. They certainly arenât where Iâd spend money first. Out of the things you mentioned it would be PSU everytime then RAM and MB last for me.
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In regards to the power supply, I have used the same power supply for my last 3 builds. I remember reading some years ago that running a power supply at half the demand will lead to longevity. So if system draw is say 500wâŠthen you would get a 1000w power supply.