9800X3D 21% faster than the 7800X3D - 1080p highest + Turbo

I was considering the same thing but think I heard somewhere (might have been in here) how the 9950X3D isn’t expected to give much extra for MSFS.

Will you be using it for other demanding things as well maybe?

Do not update just in case, till more news, it isn´t the first time that things like those happen.

Warning: 9800X3D booting issue (Code 00 / red CPU LED) with newest AGESA 1203a PatchA.

I have the latest BIOS for my MSI MPG X870E Carbon WIFI motherboard, which includes AGESA PI-1.2.0.3a Patch A, along with the new chipset drivers. I have no issues with my Ryzen 7 9800X3D, BIOS, the system or anything else. My gaming PC is running as it should.

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Supposedly the faster clocks of the 9950x3D will be offset by the two-CCD latency. I’ve read this in several places now. And even FS24 seems to only saturate 8 cores. So unless you’re running a metric bucktonne of other apps at the same time, you’re not likely to see any benefit for the extra money.

Just what I’ve read though, who knows. But I had the same decision to make and decided to go with the 8core.

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I’m expecting the 9950X3D to perform similar to the 9800X3D, but the extra cores will help in other areas beyond gaming.

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Got it, please let us know how it performs if you end up getting one.

MSFS 2024 uses multiple cores (beyond 8) much more efficiently as seen below on my 7900x3d (no additional apps or add-ons running).

This may be the case however I’m looking forward to the benchmark test results when the 9950x3d is released.

Interesting, I saw a screenshot once that looked very different. But can you be sure all of those cores are actually FS24?

Maybe there are marginal gains. I can’t imagine it relying too much on more than 8 cores though, since that’s what Xbox has.

I’ve seen other screen shots that looked very differnt also but those were typically with older cpu’s

Yes. The screenshot above is with the AMD Ultimate Performance power plan so no cores are parked and the sim is initially loaded on the 3d cached cores and then given access to the other cores on an as needed basis. I can change my power plan to Balanced and Win 11 will only provide the sim access to the 3d cached cores and the others are parked. The non-3d cached cores are only used if I fire up my browser or some other 3rd party app.

The one I saw was 7950x3D and there was much less activity in the cores beyond #8 than on yours. Not sure how exactly they had it set up though.

So this is with only with FS24 running and Windows and no other apps or non-stock background processes at all? Cool!

In any case, the cores beyond 8# don’t exactly look “saturated”. But definitely better than nothing!

As I mentioned above, I can set my power plan to balanced and all of the non-3d cached cores get parked. The same goes for the 7950x3d and that’s most likely what you saw.

Tried replacing a 13900K with a 9800X3D, here’s the result →

Since the RTX 4090 uses a PCIe 4.0 x16 interface, reducing the slot to PCIe 5.0 x8 still provides the same effective bandwidth as a PCIe 4.0 x16 connection. Therefore, you should not experience a noticeable decrease in your graphics card’s performance when installing an NVMe SSD in the M.2_2 slot.

In summary, although installing an SSD in the M.2_2 slot reduces the PCIe 5.0 x16 slot configuration to x8, the resulting bandwidth remains sufficient for the RTX 4090 to operate without any perceptible performance loss. In fact, my RTX 4090 has not lost any performance while installed in an ASUS TUF GAMING X870-PLUS WIFI, which shares its connection with an NVMe drive. If I remove the NVMe drive, the GPU’s performance remains the same.

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A 4090 can’t make use of gen 5 pci-e so that’s not what’s happening here. It’s max is pci-e 4.

It’s well known that x8 performs almost the same as x16. As you’ve found and in most other cases you’ll likely not even notice a difference. It’s still good practice to use the full x16 though if you have multiple M.2 slots and can avoid using one that’s paired with GPU. I have 2 NVME M.2 drives and can still run the GPU at full x16. It’s obviously mobo dependent.

Even though the RTX 4090 uses PCIe 4.0, reducing its link to x8 in most cases does not noticeably affect performance. Even in a PCIe 3.0 x16 configuration, performance losses are practically nonexistent in games. Only in very specific situations where massive data transfers between the GPU and CPU are required might some difference be noticeable. So, in practice, the real impact of sharing the PCIe bandwidth with an NVMe drive is minimal in terms of GPU performance.

Manufacturers keep making us pay every year by promising technologies that, at best, become truly useful four years later.

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Is that with turbo mode on or off when your playing in VR???

Not sure how that question is related to the post about the cores?

But yeah I do use turbo mode on OXRTK if that’s waht you mean.

Did install today 9800x3d, Replacing 7800x3d. Not much gain there. 5% in high resolution flat sceeen, 2-3% gain in vr. Sure, i got the beast as gpu so.

How is the overall experience? The improved 1% lows mean it should be smoother with less micro stutters.

Not able to sit down and fly yet. Maeby tomorrow i have time.