Hello,
I am new to VR with the meta quest 3s and need some clarification:
1- when maneuvering on the ground, how to brake regularly and efficiently (analogic stick, trigger, …)
2- should the physical joystick be disconnected? I’ve noticed that sometimes the controllers don’t respond if a JS is connected.
3- what is the function of the “touch pointer” device?
4- the controllers interaction modes are not exactly the same between msfs2020 and msfs2024.
Apart from these minor problems, and the inevitable degradation of the visual aspects of external views the experience is fascinating, and it’s hard to go back to using the simulator in a conventional way.
Many thanks for your comments
Best regards
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Hello,
I was difficult but I made complete flight (startup, take-off, cruise, landing, ..) by using only VR controllers. It was short flight with GA aircraft because I don’t think I could do this for a long time without physical JS.
At the moment I use only quest 3s controllers and ground actions are not easy but possible using analogic sticks. My wish was to get some idea to make such actions easier. Is it possible ?
My physical JS is a VelocityOne with twist for rudder.
Thank you for answering
Best regards
Real life pilots don’t use VR controllers and, having been a real life pilot, I don’t/won’t either. This is a flight simulator, not a shoot-em-up game for heavens sake!
Even a very basic joystick is far, far preferential. You’ll very quickly get the hang of it.
I don’t actually have controllers for my Pimax Crystal, having tried with Pico4.
It’s what I did at the beginning but I thought it would have been more realistic not using the physical JS.
I also have a problem of space and using a “blind” JS in the VR limit zone may complicate the use of quest controllers. In fact such controllers might be totally ignored for flying but it was not my first idea.
However another problem is how to use the mouse for actions not possible through the physical JS if quest controllers are out.
VR flying is much more complex than expected.
I have not understood the first part of your answer about setting up MR.
Best regards
If you get degradation then you will need to start spending money. VR is not a cheap thing. Actually you might end up buying stuff you don’t even know right now. If you want to really enjoy VR you need a wired Pcvr hmd, the latest nvidia GPU and a x3d CPU.
Thank you for the idea. Does it mean it is possible to interact in the VR environment and not on PC screen ? Sorry but I’m not sure having well understood.
You use the mouse in VR to operate the various switches, etc just as you would with your hands IRL. Okay perhaps not exactly but clicking, using the scroll wheel etc “operates” that control.
You should be able to hover the mouse pointer over a switch or lever and, assuming you’ve got the relevant assist feature switched on, a box will pop up telling you what it is. For now just go into the sim in VR and move the mouse around to see this in action.
Now, using the checklist in the VR Toolbar for something simple, say Cessna 150, practice starting up and shutting down, just to get you into the feel of how it all works. The mouse will quickly become your main interaction device in the sim. You can then go on to using your joystick to actually make it fly.
To me, VR is the only way to go. But a small caveat, RTX3070 is a bit under-powered for VR so make sure you keep your graphic settings low to start with. With a bit of experience you’ll soon get it right.
Enjoy!
Use your physical yoke/stick, rudder pedals, throttles. You can even considering buying or DIY a panel with buttons, knobs, switches. For all the other stuff you can’t assign to a physical device - use mouse.
I own VR controllers and I never use them for simming (and I’m the real world pilot), as they are very unrealistic - you can’t feel the control forces, you don’t have free hands.
I’m sorry but I have not understood how to use the mouse to interact in the cockpit in VR conditions. Is it a specific mouse to get ? do I need a specific software ?
Have you tried it? Just with your current mouse. All will become clear!
My idea of the trackball mouse is just so you can put it in a fixed place in your room so you know where it is and can always find it easily “blind”. And you don’t need space to move it or have to reach for it on your desk if you get that little table or just strap / Velcro it to something convenient.
I fly 100% of the time in VR, I don’t even have a monitor near where my simpit is located. I am using the Quest 3 with Virtual desktop wirelessly. Everything in the simpit has a place, most of it is static (meaning I cant / dont move it) After a while you build muscle memory as to where each of the controls are, and you can get to them really easily. I can also “peek” uynder my headset at the keyboard mounted on the left.
Even if you do not the type of simpit setup I do, you can still set everything up exactly the same every time you go to fly at your desk. Should not take long to build up that muscle memory.
I started with just my computer desk and a yoke setup.
Just found this thread and will be following with interest.
Just this past weekend, I put on VR headset for the first time (Quest 3; demo @ MicroCenter), and was just blown away, so now I’m thinking about it. I just moved over from Xbox to PC, and I feel like a whole new world has been opened up to me with all of the things that I now have available to me.
