Do you have a source for this?
Nothing comfirmed but all the signs are good. The MSFSAddons website said it was imminent in February. Sorry I can’t post a link but there is one further up this thread.
I am waiting for a decent DC-3 / C-47 as well.
However I will wait for some trustful third party reviews (e.i. not first impressions) before pushing the button.
The reason is that I own their Electra which is sill in need of some rather essential work (non-functioning DME and engines are not supercharged). It was released half a year ago.
I do hope that once they get the DC-3 out, they will fix also the Electra because I just can’t see the DC-3 being released without a DME and without supercharged engines. So by that time they should have the know-how to fix the Electra.
Let’s see…
The lack of a supercharger in the Electra is quite ridiculous, considering you only have to add two lines to a config file to implement it and get published performance numbers. When I installed their “update” and found I had to re-enter the info for a supercharger, I left it sitting and haven’t touched it since. Combine that with the frankly awful sounds from the P-51 and the F3F, I really have low expectations from the DC-3 and will definitely wait for reviews.
I am excited to see what comes out, too!
I hope the Aeroplane Heaven folks are able to at least half-way replicate the FSX sounds and cockpit realism in my video clips below. The flybys and tower views are someone else’s challenge.
Just reading some of the following updates, someone mentioned that they liked the AH P-38.
Didn’t MILVIZ do that one for FSX, too?
Also, does anyone know if A2A is developing anything for MSFS?
Unfortunately their msfs releases so far were quite bad with horrible sounds so I wouldn’t bet on that…
I have AH’s Cessna 140 and I like it. People complain about the sounds for it being too loud, which is subjective.
I bought their Electra, and it was simply not ready for release when it was released, no other way to put it. There was much sturm und drang on this forum in the days after the Electra came out, much of it ultimately inconsequential bickering about AH’s communication style rather than about the merits and demerits of the product itself. In the end they fixed some of the Electra’s shortcomings but not others, as has been mentioned earlier in the thread, and to my knowledge they now haven’t touched it in months. In retrospect it looks like a worse purchase now than it did then, and though I probably said here I was satisfied with it at the time (expecting continued improvements), I would now have to say it is absolutely not worth buying at the price they charge for it.
During the months the Electra has languished AH has released two other aircraft, and now it seems possible they’re on the cusp of releasing another, although I don’t know where the idea the DC-3 release is imminent comes from.
AH has been making FS add-ons for a long time and they’ve made some very good ones but it seems like they are either unable or unwilling to put in the time and effort to meet the standards people expect from a quality add-on the MSFS2020 era. They’ve released five aircraft since the launch of the sim, which has to be among the most of any developer, and some of them simply seem to have been hastily slapped together. They need change with the times by either raising their game or lowering their prices. Coasting off their rep from the old days won’t cut it, even for people like me who fondly remember their P-38 for FS9 and such.
I will give AH credit in that they said they employed a professional for the DC-3 sounds so hopefully they’ll be decent, but they still have a dodgy history in terms of flight dynamics and systems with their MSFS releases. I love the DC-3 and want it to be good, but their track record is meh.
That’s very encouraging!
Among my earliest boyhood memories from the late 1940s is one night at our local airport. I remember watching a Colonial Airlines DC-3 spinning up its inertia starter and then chuffing to life with belches of smoke and fire shooting from those Wasp exhaust pipes.
So impressive and unforgettable!
It would be nice to be able to see that simulated in MSFS! FSX had that capability.
This sim needs a decent DC-3
I feel the same for the Basler. I just love the plane to bits.
Doesn’t PMDG own a real one? I hope they bring a high fidelity dc-3 one day
they have also outsourced the flight model effort for the DC-3 / C-47 project
scroll up to post #12 in the link below
AH DC-3 Releasing March, 2022? (sim-outhouse.com)
Wow, reading that they also contracted out the flight model and some of the other features makes me a bit more excited for this.
Thanks for this link, FusionHorse151. Reading it back through it all, it is a very informative thread regarding the impending AH combined DC-3 & C-47 release. If I read “MJ” to mean Manfred Jahn then I am really encouraged. I don’t think there was ever anything better for FSX than his works.
If like Apple, AH went to pre-ordering, I think I’d be tempted!
@AlanA4643 said above that Mr. Jahn retired and is no longer developing for flight sims.
yes - MJ is typically how Manfred Jahn is referred to at SOH - but that was in reference to the video that was posted and not necessarily the name of the person(s) working on the AH flight model…but anything is possible
When the AH DC-3 was in development for P3D, there was a lot of community enthusiasm for AH to engage Alexander Metzger to develop the flight dynamics. Understandable given his work on the Manfred Jahn C-47 among so many other freeware and payware projects. If I recall correctly, AH responded that there were many talented FDE developers and that they weren’t planning to hire a big name. As it happened, the flight dynamics on the AH aircraft were quite good - not identical to Alexander’s, a bit livelier (e.g., faster to come up to speed on level-off) but felt right and authentic. Still don’t know who was responsible, but if AH takes the same approach here, I’d be fine with it. The initial P3D release had some quirks, later addressed, but the flight model wasn’t one of them.
Right you are! Thank you.
I have their MSFS Spitfire and C140 and are quite happy with both those, a lot of the complaints are either nit-picking or objecting to features that are historically correct (like the Spitfire brakes). As you say a lot of complaints seem to be expecting instant one on one big-corporation support from a small company where the first language is not English.
That said I have been wary of reports of issues with some of the others, in particular the Electra. I have deferred buying the Electra. However I am thinking about the Grumman as it seems to have reasonable reviews.