Aeroplane Heaven - Socata MS.893 Rallye Commodore 180 - Released

Available in the MSFS (2020) Marketplace and at JustFlight: Just Flight - Aeroplane Heaven Socata Rallye MS-893

Any thoughts on this one? Not a lot of info on the description page about alternative avionics or any general feature other than textures/modeling. May be a what you see is what you get but not sure.

It saying it has stereo sounds as if that’s not industry standard for ages is slightly worrying. I assume it’s the same sounds from the P3D build. They weren’t terrible sounds, but they had a pretty bad loop at high RPM. I’m waiting for a video review. All aircraft addons really need a trailer with engine sounds featured in various stages or it’s not a complete product listing in my mind, but many devs disagree.

Hi there,
just downloaded this plane on marketplace. I use Msfs 2020 (Steam version)
No matter what I try, the plane crashes after 5 min of casual flying (“overstressed”).
I used to be a real pilot and made my license in the late 90´s in germany. I flew Cessna, Piper, Robin and Diamond aircraft, so I know how to handle a flying machine like this.
Anyone else having this problem ?

Your skills have nothing to do with it. The Stress Damage feature of FS2020 is just buggy as hell. Disable it.

You probably have a window open. Not that that should be a problem. But… Asobo logic is… let’s just say… different.

A user on Avsim reported that the max flaps speed is messed up (at a minimum) and he got an over stress at 60kts. The user allegedly reported the issue to AH. I would encourage those here with the aircraft to also contact AH about this and any other issues they have. I do not believe that the developer reads forums.

I could not resist this plane, so I bought it. I had never even heard of this plane before, but now I am a rabid Rallye enthusiast. 100% fits into my aviation aesthetics.

Highlights:

  • Gorgeous visuals, and a palpable vibe in the cockpit (loving that duct tape on the right side).
  • Refueling button on the wing is a neat feature.
  • Fun to fly. Had the best landing I’ve had in perhaps any plane.
  • Sounds are great (until you change the throttle).

What I didn’t like:

  • The airspeed indicator. I don’t mean to be a little b—h, but it has no colored arcs and maxes at 300 knots. In fact at first I assumed it was in KM/h because of that. The ones I saw on IRL photos of Rallyes all max at 160 and have colored arcs.
  • Low speed behavior has some quirks. I turned off stress damage a long time ago because I know when I’ve sinned. BUT this thing handles very oddly when full flaps are in. It doesn’t decelerate like you’d expect if you throw in full flaps and cut the throttle. I’ll need to test it a bit more so as to provide meaningful feedback to the team.
  • Sounds are strange at points when advancing the throttle.
  • Windshield scratches are excessive and distracting.

Dang, looks like there’s more I didn’t like about this plane. But I WANT TO LOVE IT because it’s just so ■■■■ cool. I’m past the “gee I sure wish SWS would do a Rallye” phase (actually no I’m not, SWS should do it). I really don’t want to bring yet more criticism to the Aeroplane Heaven team, this model is really promising and I think it could be great. Honestly I don’t know what’s going on with Aeroplane Heaven, you’d think by this point they would learn but it seems to be the same old show with them again. I mean after so much fiery criticism from the most demanding users on Earth (Flight Simmers) you’d think they might consider slowing their dev cycle and focusing more on quality.

The aircraft received an update today and the overstress-issue is gone.
From now on, people all around the world will live together in love and peace!
:grin:
Thank you

I checked out a bunch of Commodore instrument panels online. Looks hit or miss on colored bars on the AI, but most do seem to have some sort of green bar at least. I saw one with the bars and Vne colored in on the panel itself with what looked like magic marker lines. You could do the same in the instrument panel texture.

Are you flying in 2020 or 2024? In 2024, there’s a bug on windshield scratches for 2020 aircraft. Hopefully fixed with SU1.

AH for some reason has all sorts of issues with their flaps. I have no idea why. They love to create the weirdest bugs.

Strictly 2020 for now. AH is truly mystifying. I think they should consider a more relaxed product development cycle, and also consider updating the crusty looking panel instruments. I could live with that since it’s so fun to fly and great looking, but whatever’s going on with the flaps is kind of a dealbreaker unfortunately.

Took the updated Rallye up for a quick spin, seems a bit better now. I really like this plane, it’s so cool and fun to fly! It’s got tons of quirks, and the cockpit is a little jarring visually after spending time in the TBM850 which is 100% eye candy. But it’s so unique and strangely appealing!!

As IRL I’m a fan of the Rallyes a friend made an improvement mod for me.
It’s not perfect because more depends on AH will (and it seems they are satisfied with the plane as it is) but it solves a lot of issues and improves many things.
And bye bye AH flaps… :wink:
You’ll find all infos in the .txt file included.
Have fun
https://flightsim.to/file/88789/ah-socata-ms-893-rallye-mod
Edit:
There’s a small issue in the mod that causes it to appear with a strange name in the aicraft selection menu. But the mod works.
An update is in progress.
In the meantime, if you don’t like it, all you have to do is to copy at least one .LocPak file from the original Rallye into the mod directory where the layout.json file is located, and update this layout.json by drag/drop it onto MSFSLayoutGenerator.exe.
The Rallye will now appear under its real name.

An update solving the name issue is available.
Internal/external wind sounds, “screetch” sound and particles effect when wheels are touching the ground were also added.

An update for the Rallye Commodore 180hp
https://flightsim.to/file/88789/ah-socata-ms-893-rallye-mod

And for the many nostalgic fans of the Rallye Club 100hp, those who trained with this aircraft, those who flew their hours at lower cost with it, here it is at last.
https://flightsim.to/file/89988/ah-aircraft-socms893-100

Don’t miss the superb joeCRASSY’s liveries wich perfectly match with this 100hp Rallye Club.
https://flightsim.to/profile/joeCRASSY/uploads

When I was in my late teens my best mate passed his PPL and we flew the club’s Rallye all over Devon, Cornwall and Somerset.
One summers afternoon we’d been up around North Devon and followed the coast back to Dunster before heading south for Dunkeswell.

We were cruising along at 5000’. The Rallye is ‘semi aerobatic’, a mysterious term that no one quite knew the meaning of. My mate knew you could loop it as the club CFI had during one of his lessons!

It was a beautiful clear day with the vale of Taunton and the Blackdown hills spread out before us. Rick pushed the stick forward and the Rallye started to trundle down hill, picking up a little more speed. When we were indicating a magnificent 115 or so he started pulling back on the stick and up and up the nose went and in a shower of grass and sweet wrappers over the top we went.
I was looking directly upwards out of the cockpit canopy and out of the corner of my eye what appeared to be a rugby pitch was moving at high speed over the ground below us. As it crossed over the M5 motorway the ‘rugby pitch’ resolved itself into a Vulcan bomber going like the clappers at low level…

A truly great plane and a huge pity that AH with their awful modelling and texturing have released it.

Do you mean Just Flight? AH didn’t release a Vulcan as far as I can see? I don’t own it, but, lots of people seem to like the release?

No, lol. I mean the Rallye! Everything AH releases is simply subpar.

Lolll, I thought you meant the Vulcan was a truly great plane :laughing:
I wish they gave us a laughing emoji for posts!

Hey all, I’ve always been a fan of AH’s small planes (Swift especially) so I have long been considering picking this up, but the sounds are just a big no from me. Has anyone succeeded at mapping the sounds to another aircraft, and if so, which one works best? I’m in FS2024, if it matters (I believe it’s in the FS2024 Marketplace as compatible at this point, but I would buy it from Orbx or somewhere else to ensure I could mod the sound files.)

The new Rallye mod.
In a single mod you have three versions (100hp/180hp/235hp) with batch files to make selection easy. Batch selection also between clear (original AH) and blue (JoeCRASSY creation) canopy tops.
The new Rallye 235 is awesome, not fast but powerful.


To train your skills crop smokes are added.
https://flightsim.to/file/91050/ah-aircraft-socms893-general-mod

Have fun with this mod.

And for those using JoeCRASSY’s liveries for the Rallye, a mod with batch files to alternate between dark blue top of canopy and light blue one.
https://flightsim.to/file/90917/joecrassys-liveries-canopy-color-mod